Islamic school set ablaze in Netherlands

ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | November 9, 2004 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

[Snapple]

Saddam and the terrorists kill people who speak up.

15 October, Iraqi photographer Karam Husayn, who worked for the European Pressphoto Agency, was assassinated by militants outside his Mosul home. One day earlier, Dina Muhammad Hassan, a correspondent for Al-Hurriyah television, which is owned by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, was gunned down in front of her home in the Iraqi capital. The International Federation of Journalists (http://www.ifj.org) reported on 18 October that Hassan had received unspecified threats to stop working for Al-Hurriyah and was warned to wear a hijab, or Islamic head scarf.

[bikepacker67]

SPEAKING UP IS DANGEROUS

Not speaking up will prove to be more dangerous.

[Snapple]

ARAB JOURNALISTS WHO SPEAK UP ARE MURDERED

One of the boldest attacks on journalists in recent months was the 30 October car bombing of the Baghdad office of Dubai-based Al-Arabiyah television. A group identifying itself as the Jihadist Martyrs Brigade in Iraq claimed responsibility for the bombing, which killed seven staff members, and injured at least a dozen employees. In a statement posted on the Internet, the group said that the channel was targeted "after much hesitation" due to its excessive praise of the interim government led by Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, Beirut's Al-Manar television reported on 31 October. The group called the bombing an "ultimatum," adding that it's next attack would be a "quality operation." The group also threatened to attack media agencies and television channels based outside Iraq should they fail to meet what it called "balanced" reporting -- meaning the media should present the militants' view in their reporting. The statement added that the militants intended to kidnap journalists and slaughter them like sheep if they continued to reflect the view of the U.S. "occupiers" in their reporting.

[USF]

I know what you are trying to convey.... which is why I threw up the example of Malaysia in my post # 65 (?). I've witnessed the spread of radicalism there and seen what the Saudi Petrodollars do first hand. Democracy (well, the Malaysian version of it) has used as a tool to bring in Sharia on the east coast... ultimately destroying the democratic process that you appear to think (?) is Islams savior. Algeria was a similar but a more violent version of this, but ultimately democracy lost the battle with Islam, even if it was in an entirely different way. I have serious doubts as to the compatibly of them both. Because I do not have time to write an essay on the matter right now, I tried to get back on Kaliffah.com... (or was it org) to show you the Muslims perspective of this incompatibility, but the link I wanted has either moved again or they have had to remove it. Will post it if I find it.

[XBob]

62 - "We are doing our best to get the butcher of TvG freed"

You are a dangerous fool. Attempting to free a murderer, because he is Muslim.

[Snapple]

Are you reading my posts???

Arab journalists are speaking up and getting mowed down.

Why don't you read what they say before claiming they don't say anything.

You must be reading the mainstream media which doesn't report on what all these murdered Arabs are saying.They are not all Saddam/terrorist shills.

It isn't enough to speak up when the terrorists have the guns. The people who speak up need protection.

[FrankRepublican]

Maybe the Europeans will rediscover Christianity, decide to start having children and will fight for their civilization. I sure hope so. Looks like the Dutch are not going down (to become EurAbia) without a fight.

[Fred Nerks]

"You are a dangerous fool. Attempting to free a murderer, because he is Muslim."

Agreed. I think this sentiment exhibits just how terrified the Dutch really are of their muslim population.

[FrankRepublican]

Islam has been trying to take over Europe by force for 1400 years. There was a lull from about 1930 until 1972. They got the leftwing Europeans to open their borders. If they EU politicians said no then they would have gotten terrorist bombings. The French caved to the IslamoFacists in the 1970s.

[Dallas59]

Looks like the muslimes didn't start to feel all kissy and hugy till after they started getting a dose of thier own medicine.

[satchmodog9]

Goes a long way towards preemption doesn't it.

[teezle]

Still awaiting your explanation about the Bible

Sorry nl. Since I do not have the mainstream opinion a lot of comments are pointed to me. I can only handle one at a time and English is not my native language so it takes some time. I'm going to bed soon as well btw since it is already 2:30 AM...

I must admit that my knowledge about the Bible and Koran is not great (have read the Bible though). My point is that whatever is written in the Holy Book... it is all about the interpretation.

where you condone and promote the use of illegal drugs and organized prostitution,why would you have a problem with abhorrent murder.

I smoke weed once in a while like I drink alcohol and must say that if you go purely for the effect, you should stick to alcohol. "Prostitution is the oldest confession in the world" therefore the Dutch view is (and this view can be applied to more legislation): If people have the urge to do things that so conflict with other peoples freedom, let's regulate it so things do not get out of control. This is of course a blunt explanation.

[montag813]

"BURN BABY BURN"

[sarasmom]

This forum is not a "feelings" oriented place.
Most here prefer facts and/or educated opinions.Some of us are known for one-liners.
Contrary to international belief, or perhaps proving it, we don't really much care what you "feel" about our internal dialog.
Read the home page.
You are at least not the usual garden variety "troll", since you actually do respond to members posts.
Welcome, and don a flame suit.
It is always OK to have a contrary polite opinion.
Best you know now that you'd better have solid, researchable facts readily available to back up that contrary opinion.
There are some serious constitutional knowledgeable heavyweights around here, and one's "feelings" can be hurt if you are not prepared to talk more than "feelings".
There! I did my good "compassionate conservative" deed for the day!
BTW, since you are Eurotrash-Bite me! :^)

[guitfiddlist]

Sentimentalist idiots that swim in the waters of tolerance, despoiling it with their droppings of excuses for the inexcusable, are suddenly seeing a rapid rise in ambient temperature. They're too stupid and insular to realize that a culture can switch on a dime. Whereas a mere few weeks ago they might have been surrounded by way-cool progressives saying "Yahh, right...diversity is...good", now they might be surrounded by an outraged public ready to yank their moronic butts off their little soapboxes to dunk them in the canals.

[Snapple]

It's a risk, but I think people will prefer democracy because it can help them negotiate their differences without violence.

I don't think we can continue to support corrupt dictatorships and have any respect in the world.

[Snapple]

SPEAKING UP--BUT TO THE AMERICANS SO THEY CAN GET THE TERRORISTS

U.S. MILITARY ASKS BAGHDAD RESIDENTS TO USE TIP LINE. The U.S. military has set up an anonymous tip line and has urged residents in the Iraqi capital to call in any information related to the insurgency, AP reported on 2 November. The agency reported that Brigadier General Jeffrey Hammond gave interviews to Arabic television networks on 1 November, asking Iraqis to provide information on planned attacks. "When you see this terrible insurgent about to do something, pick up your phone and call me. I'll do something about it," Hammond said. "We can fight this war together. You can help me fight -- in secret," he added. The First Cavalry Division, which Hammond commands, has received up to 30 calls per day since the line was set up two weeks ago, but has yet to yield any significant results. Division spokesman Lieutenant Colonel James Hutton said that it has been helpful in vetting intelligence and generating leads. AP cited Hammond as saying that the tip line is part of an Arabic media blitz organized by the division that includes weekly Arabic-only news conferences and interviews on radio call-in shows in Baghdad.

[teezle]

Welcome to the Forum.I think it is good to have A voice from Europe, even A dissenting one. My point about the sanctions is that for years your part of the world has voted for sanctions against Israel, completely failing to understand the type of fanatics Israel has to deal with. When innocent Israelis die it appears to mean nothing to you. Now you have an example of Muslim tolerance at your doorstep. You chastise the US for freeing the people of Iraq and in so doing promote the idea that it is OK for A tyrant to invade his neighbors, torture and kill his own people and use WMD's against the Kurds. You believe that leaving the swamp of the Mideast alone to breed ever more fanatics is the kindest option. I believe it is far kinder for the majority of all people of all faiths to rid the world of these beasts and their breeding grounds.

Thanks. Sorry for my short reaction but I really need to go to bed. I would love to discuss the MO-problem in the future. Of course it is despicable what Palestines kamikazee-bombers but you have to also look at what is beneath the problem. SH has been supported by the US gov for many years and I didn't hear the US gov about the use of WMD against Iran.

[montag813]

"BURN BABY BURN"

[teezle]

Teezle, sorry, no offence taken, and I do not mean to sound so abraisive... long day... tired. Very early start tomorrow too that I'm not looking forward to. Please, even if you do not answer all my replies to you, read the links I posted in them. I'm sure it will open your eyes, and you'll see where many of us are coming from.

I'll have a look at the links... tomorrow... It's now 2:48 AM.