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National Geographic Ignores The Flaws in Darwin's Theory
Discovery Institute News ^ | 11/8/04 | Jonathan Wells

Posted on 11/09/2004 11:21:22 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

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To: WildTurkey
Speciation is not a sudden, miraculous transformation from one species to another. The way creationists envision evolution theory...
 
Hey!
 
It wasn't us "C" folks who came up with PunkEek!
 
The "E" side of this debate finally decided that THAT won't work, so they are left with only 'gradual changes accumulating' now.  (Can't have any MIRACLES happening in the fossil record.)

221 posted on 11/10/2004 4:57:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: StJacques; K4Harty; WildTurkey

Hi guys!

Glad to have you new folks here in FR!

It's always good to get a fresh perspective, as some of us have been fighting these wars so long that we can complete the other fellow's sentences!


222 posted on 11/10/2004 5:04:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I also believe in evolution. I do not believe for a single second that a merciful God would send me to Hell for that second belief. Do you?

No, but He might if you worked to prevent school children from hearing the other side of the story. The problem with evolutionary theory is that it's very weak scientifically. I find the ID arguments much more compelling. Regardless, evolutionary theory should not be sold as fact to impressionable children.

The only thing we know with certainty regarding human origins is that the human race has descended from an original couple. Regarding the cosmos, we know that the universe was created from nothing.

223 posted on 11/10/2004 5:12:12 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: jennyp
If that's true, then so is forensics.

My experience with evolutionists is that they ignore countervailing evidence. They tend to be very dogmatic.

224 posted on 11/10/2004 5:14:38 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: orionblamblam
The Platonists won... and won political power.

And they outlawed "science"? How did they do that?

225 posted on 11/10/2004 5:15:49 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Nothing comes from nothing and nothing never will Ping!


226 posted on 11/10/2004 5:19:22 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Aquinasfan
No, but He might if you worked to prevent school children from hearing the other side of the story.

You are attempting to solve the wrong problem, just as I said in the post previous to the one you had your knee-jerk reaction to.

Where in the Constitution does it say that my children are to be educated at the expense of the public?

If I want my children to have an education, I should pay for it, and if you want yours to have an education, you should pay for it, and when we are paying for it we get to say what gets taught.

There is no difference between abolishing public education and having inner city schools graduate a majority of eighteen year old kids who cannot read or write.

And it's a lot cheaper for the taxpayer.

227 posted on 11/10/2004 5:25:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Elsie

The eye. Did you miss that report this week where they found the link between the eye and the brain cells supporting the evolution?


228 posted on 11/10/2004 6:30:01 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Aquinasfan
The only thing we know with certainty regarding human origins is that the human race has descended from an original couple.

Not a certainty.

229 posted on 11/10/2004 6:33:59 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
Did you miss that report this week where they found the link between the eye and the brain cells supporting the evolution?

The editor at creationsafaris didn't miss it. Miracle required

230 posted on 11/10/2004 7:11:56 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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Dr. Terry Mortenson, AiG–USA, has something to say about the NG article as well:

National Geographic is wrong and so was Darwin Link

231 posted on 11/10/2004 9:27:08 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: WildTurkey
Not a certainty.

We know it to be a certainty by virtue of its source, Christ's Church. It's not a subjective certainty.

232 posted on 11/10/2004 12:25:47 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If I want my children to have an education, I should pay for it, and if you want yours to have an education, you should pay for it, and when we are paying for it we get to say what gets taught.

What about children whose parents can't afford to pay for their child's education? This is why I advocate a voucher program as an improvement over the existing schooling system.

233 posted on 11/10/2004 12:29:10 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
We know it to be a certainty by virtue of its source, Christ's Church. It's not a subjective certainty.

Where did Cain's wife come from?

234 posted on 11/10/2004 12:36:58 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Aquinasfan
What about children whose parents can't afford to pay for their child's education? This is why I advocate a voucher program as an improvement over the existing schooling system.

Bless your heart. You're such a sensitive little Communist.

You're not solving the problem with vouchers. You are perpetuating it. If it comes from the government, it comes with strings attached. After a while you will find yourself in the same exact situation as now, only instead of public schools we will have private schools run by the stipulations attached to the vouchers.

And as far as people not being able to afford to educate their children, what good does free public education do if half the kids graduating from inner city schools can't even read or write?

Every private school I know of allows a certain number of kids in who can't afford it. Families who take education seriously will find a way to educate their children. Families who don't will just have to find some other way to warehouse their kids, which is all that would be happening at a public school anyway.

235 posted on 11/10/2004 12:46:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bless your heart. You're such a sensitive little Communist.

Please grow up.

236 posted on 11/10/2004 12:50:24 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
Please grow up.

You're the one who thinks everything should be free.

237 posted on 11/10/2004 1:07:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: WildTurkey

Adam and Eve.


238 posted on 11/10/2004 1:41:48 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
After a while you will find yourself in the same exact situation as now, only instead of public schools we will have private schools run by the stipulations attached to the vouchers.

In the worst case scenario you have a return to the status quo. That's why I advocate vouchers as an improvement over the existing system.

There are reasons to believe that the worst case scenario will not arise, however. Parents who actively choose a school for their child will actively fight to maintain control over their school's curriculum. Individual schools, associations of schools, and parent organizations will spring up to fight off regulation.

Currently parents of children in government schools are pitted against each other to control their school's curriculum, whereas under a voucher system individual schools will be pitted against the government to control their school's curriculum.

239 posted on 11/10/2004 1:49:17 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
Adam and Eve.

Where did you get that?

240 posted on 11/10/2004 1:58:43 PM PST by WildTurkey
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