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What now, Democrats?
USNews ^ | 11/15/04 | John Leo

Posted on 11/08/2004 7:24:18 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

On the morning after the election, newspeople at cable outlets and National Public Radio launched a one-day seminar to educate themselves on the "new" and "surprising" finding that millions of Americans had actually voted on social issues. The seminar was necessary because mainstream media personnel don't spend much time or space covering these issues and don't personally know anybody willing to say they count for much. But exit polls showed that at 22 percent, "moral values" was the biggest issue on the minds of voters, and four fifths of the 22 percent had voted for Bush...

Democrats might want to tone down the contempt for evangelicals in particular and religious people in general that increasingly flows through their secular-dominated party. This is a very religious nation. If the Democrats aspire to become the majority party, why do they tolerate so much antireligious behavior and expression? They also might have a word with out-of-control adjuncts of the party like People for the American Way, whose mission is apparently to hammer away at religious conservatives, and the American Civil Liberties Union, which is always ready to descend on every 6-year-old who writes a school essay on Jesus or who says, "God bless you" after a sneeze. Do they think religious voters fail to notice? ...

They might also have second thoughts about the strategy of getting judges to impose solutions that they want but that the voters are unwilling to accept. It is beginning to dawn on many Democrats that John Kerry may have lost the election on Nov. 18, 2003, when Massachusetts's highest court, by a 4-to-3 vote, conjured up a right to gay marriage that nobody else had ever located anywhere in the state Constitution. In a backlash, state constitutional amendments banning gay marriage passed easily in all 11 states...

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: activist8judges; afterwards; johnleo; kerrydefeat; liberals; social8issues

1 posted on 11/08/2004 7:24:19 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If the dems knew how to pick them in the primaries they wouldn't be in this mess.


2 posted on 11/08/2004 7:30:38 PM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I would rather see the Democratic Party cure itself of this hatred as opposed to letting them run with it, simply because, if by some chance, a Democratic Party more hateful than ever toward the religious were to get into power with that as one of their planks (and we all know how odd scenarios can occur through history), we would have an extremely dangerous situation on our hands. I'd prefer to see the disease cured rather than hope that the condition turns fatal before it spreads.
3 posted on 11/08/2004 7:30:38 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: Conservomax
If the dems knew how to pick them in the primaries they wouldn't be in this mess.

unfortunately, i have to disagree with you on this one. at primary time there was not a single dem who not have put them in this mess concerning moral values.

"i am looking for a man in the democratic party with moral values" -- diogenes, holding up a light.

4 posted on 11/08/2004 7:33:36 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: Conservomax
If the dems knew how to pick them in the primaries they wouldn't be in this mess.

Remember the 10 that they had to choose from?

Joe Lieberman was the best of the lot....That's sad.

5 posted on 11/08/2004 7:34:26 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
Of the ten, Lieberman was the only one I was fearful of. Usually moderate, and religious, he was the only one that had a chance.
6 posted on 11/08/2004 7:38:32 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Where is Terry McAuliffe?)
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To: Conservomax
If the dems knew how to pick them in the primaries they wouldn't be in this mess.

Remember the 10 that they had to choose from?

Joe Lieberman was the best of the lot....That's sad.

7 posted on 11/08/2004 7:40:49 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: atomicpossum
I would rather see the Democratic Party cure itself of this hatred...

The nation needs two healthy political parties. And, right now, the Democrats ain't one of them.

The Democrats have to cure themselves. Or something else must take their place.

8 posted on 11/08/2004 7:41:14 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Jet Jaguar

What about Dick Brainfart? Wouldn't he have helped them in Ohio?


9 posted on 11/08/2004 7:41:58 PM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: Hazzardgate

Gephardt did not worry me.

I can't explain why, well maybe I can, Lieberman was on the ticket that got more popular vote in 2000. If the Anybody But Bush crowd had rallied behind him, I would have had more concern.

But, the lefties refuse to support anybody that actually believes in religion.

JMHO


10 posted on 11/08/2004 7:49:32 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Where is Terry McAuliffe?)
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To: atomicpossum
I would rather see the Democratic Party cure itself of this hatred as opposed to letting them run with it

They need to go away. We'd be better off with about any other party in opposition.
11 posted on 11/08/2004 7:56:42 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: mlocher
I disagree also, but for different reasons. The liberals are not the people's party, they represent special interest groups. Consider the paradox in their attitude, "the party of the people", which negates personal advancement. Who in their party supports the tax freedoms to build small business and pass it onto future generations? Who is fighting to reform our educational system to advance gifted students currently sinking in an archaic process? Which party refuses to repair Social Security or health care? Ask yourself which of the remaining "selections" would have approached these problems any differently than their liberal constituents?
12 posted on 11/08/2004 8:01:49 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I disagree also, but for different reasons.

your analysis is right on as well. using cj prahalad's (business strategy guru from u of m) rule of three, in business, there will be 3 dominant players formed by expansion, buyouts, mergers and acquisitions that make up 90 % of the market share, with a bunch of other companies taking niche markets. the companies with the most focus will be in the top 3.

the democrats, lacking focus, are splintering because, as you so adequately put it, they are a bunch of special interests with no common focus. because of their lack of leadership, vision, mission and purpose, they are doing just the opposite of what growing organizations do. and they have done it without layoffs, spin offs, asset sales, etc. they are to be commended on their unique method of self destruction....

13 posted on 11/08/2004 9:14:02 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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