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Police seek guns stolen from Dayton SWAT team member's truck
The Plain Dealer ^ | November 07, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/08/2004 12:52:28 PM PST by TERMINATTOR

Dayton- A shotgun, two rifles and a submachine gun were stolen from the pickup of a police SWAT team member.

"We need those weapons back," said Lt. Bob Chabali, commander of the Dayton-Montgomery County Regional Special Weapons and Tactics Team. "Those weapons are used for the safety of the community. In the wrong hands, they're a menace."

Authorities said Friday they did not have any suspects.

Officer Gary Huber had parked his truck Thursday night under a light outside a restaurant where he had stopped to eat after SWAT team practice, Chabali said. Huber later discovered someone had broken into his truck.

Chabali called Huber is a "very mature and solid officer," and said he probably would not be disciplined.

Huber's guns had been put in storage boxes, which were concealed in the back of the cab in his locked truck, officials said.

The weapons, some of which are not available to civilians without federal firearms dealer licenses, were listed as stolen in national databases, so no one would be able to pawn them, Huber Heights assistant police Chief Jim Borland said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; civilians; menace; shotgun; submachinegun; swat; tworifles; wronghands
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His view of the truck may have been obstructed by a donut?
1 posted on 11/08/2004 12:52:29 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR

Well, that's one way to get weapons, and hide them and have them ready for the upcoming Civil War... Bet it was an "inside job"...


2 posted on 11/08/2004 12:54:59 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("I get my own ammo, I have to pull the trigger myself, I have to wound myself. It's pretty amazing")
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To: TERMINATTOR
"Huber's guns had been put in storage boxes, which were concealed in the back of the cab in his locked truck, officials said. "

than how did the crooks know they were there?

3 posted on 11/08/2004 12:55:51 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: mhking

just damnable?


4 posted on 11/08/2004 12:57:04 PM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
"Huber's guns had been put in storage boxes, which were concealed in the back of the cab in his locked truck, officials said."

Really great job of concealment!

Semper Fi

5 posted on 11/08/2004 12:57:52 PM PST by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Dereliction of duty. Barney Fife award.


6 posted on 11/08/2004 12:59:00 PM PST by Navy Patriot ("What a maroon." Bugs Bunny)
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To: TERMINATTOR
No offense, but I feel the safety odds of cops riding around with machine guns tends to fall into the ugly gatagory more times than not. I'd feel better if they were stolen and then given to a responsible grandfather with a good gun safe. We'd all sleep no-knock better.

Cops have no business playing Army. We have a war in Iraq which would be more than theraputic if they get all tingly firing machine guns and throwing grenades. Last I knew, they're still hiring.

8 posted on 11/08/2004 1:00:24 PM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: camle
than how did the crooks know they were there?

This happens a lot, I've heard the MO described by several folks who've had guns stolen.

Smart bad guys case range, shooting match, or training area, and follow the mark out, to a restaurant or more often, hotel.

Wait for the driver to exit, and boom.

Whoever stole the guns knew exactly what they were after.

This is why military regulations prohibit weapons in private vehicles.

9 posted on 11/08/2004 1:00:43 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Heh. In Santa Cruz some bold thief stole an MP-5 out of the trunk of a marked patrol car in the police department parking lot.


10 posted on 11/08/2004 1:01:17 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: TERMINATTOR
Forgive me for overstating the obvious, but an unoccupied SWAT vehicle might be as appealing to some as an open beer delivery truck at a Football tailgater........

Also look for any community which may be disbanding or consolidating "Special Services Units"(SWAT is out of vogue) to have an incredible series of "thefts" of the gear.

11 posted on 11/08/2004 1:03:49 PM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: blackdog
but an unoccupied SWAT vehicle

This was likely a private truck, many rural PD's allow officers to carry SRT weapons their personal vehicles, to permit rapid response to crisis.

12 posted on 11/08/2004 1:06:07 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: atomic_dog

I would love to get my hands on an MP-5 on day!


13 posted on 11/08/2004 1:11:56 PM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways < Preserve America ! >)
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To: xsrdx
And statistical rapid resonses requiring machine guns in Dayton proper during any five year period would quantify as how many? I don't fall for that one!

Our policing structure by design is to fill out paperwork and respond to a crime after the fact. The notion that cops are some sort of rapid response unit that can save the community from some lethal evil is just silly. As a matter of fact I would conclude that cops arriving at a scene in a hurry with automatic weapons is at best dangerous to the cops until the scene is secure and a command center is functioning.

We don't even appreciate cops chasing cars thru our neighborhoods at 100mph to chase some guy who's had two beers and is behind on his child support. I hardly think we can boost that trust level to add automatic weapons. I want cops to go home safely and in one chunk at the end of their day's work.

14 posted on 11/08/2004 1:15:53 PM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: TERMINATTOR
In the wrong hands, they're a menace."

In the right hands, they're "freebies"!

15 posted on 11/08/2004 1:21:22 PM PST by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: theDentist

Occam's Razor of Brilliance Award, this year goes to......The Dentist!


16 posted on 11/08/2004 1:24:16 PM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: ßuddaßudd

I went up to the Machine Gun Shoot in Nevada explicitly to shoot an MP-5. Unfortunately that gun was not there that day. I was disappointed and had to settle for a silenced Uzi with the foregrip. Quite surprised at how well it handled. I took my 16 year-old nephew, whom I am raising up, with me as a treat for good grades. The kid had never shot a gun before and his first time out gets to shoot a M-60. Whoot! Talk about jumping into the deep end of the pool.


17 posted on 11/08/2004 1:56:23 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: TERMINATTOR; Joe Brower

BTTT


18 posted on 11/08/2004 1:59:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: blackdog

I remember Nigel of Spinal Tap fame explaining "There's such a thin thin line between brilliance and stupidity."


19 posted on 11/08/2004 2:04:12 PM PST by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: TERMINATTOR; atomic_dog

Here in NC, some Raleigh cops on the way for training in Wilson lost an MP-5 when it FELL OUT OF THE BACK OF THEIR PICKUP.

I swear I'm not kidding.
And believe it or not, some honest Tarheel turned it in.


20 posted on 11/08/2004 2:07:22 PM PST by Constitution Day
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