Posted on 11/08/2004 6:59:55 AM PST by genefromjersey
Just glancing at the New York Times today: They are "concerned" because prison populations have increased over 2%, "but crime rates are declining".
Gee,whillikers ! Do you suppose there could be a connection between crime and punishment ?
Do you suppose the fact criminals are "incarcerated" ...
(That,by the way,is one word inmates love to use !)
...might be keeping them from committing more crimes ?
Duh-h-h-h-h-h-h !! I think we need an in depth study-
government-funded,of course.
I mean,hey ! We have to do something for the wonderful folks who supported John Kerry !!
NOT !!!
Jim Taranto over at Opinionjournal.com will be all over this later today.
And with no new gun laws and with the "Assault Weapons Ban" expiring...
Crime is dropping. Oh no this really has to make the NYT upset. These pesky three strikes laws are getting in the way!!
And with no new gun laws and with the "Assault Waepons Ban" expiring...
If criminals are locked up as they should be and then the key is thrown away (as it should be), then they are not on the street committing more crimes. How difficult is that to understand?
You don't post a link so I can't confirm the story and there is no way I'm going to put hard earned money on the table to see but ... this is not the first time such an assertion has been made nor is it the first time instant ridicule has been the result. Did they REALLY publish this today, now that most MSM concedes the fact checking power of the WWW? That is as amazing as their failure to see cause and effect. Wow.
I have come to greatly enjoy and be reassured by the torrent of proof that liberals continue to be clueless as to how the world works. With these overeducated idiots as the opposition, we can hope for decades of conservative and Republican dominance if we stick to our principles and are politically sharp.
Here's the link to the relevant story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/08/national/08prisons.html
Explain it to me ONE MORE TIME. Why do we read the NYT looking for information?
Thanks for the link. Fox Butterfield really did say it. What a maroon.
And they wonder why the country elects Republicans.
November 8, 2004
Despite Drop in Crime, an Increase in Inmates
By FOX BUTTERFIELD
he number of inmates in state and federal prisons rose 2.1 percent last year, even as violent crime and property crime fell, according to a study by the Justice Department released yesterday.
The continuing increase in the prison population, despite a drop or leveling off in the crime rate in the past few years, is a result of laws passed in the 1990's that led to more prison sentences and longer terms, said Allen J. Beck, chief of corrections statistics for the department's Bureau of Justice Statistics and an author of the report.
At the end of 2003, there were 1,470,045 men and women in state and federal prisons in the United States, the report found. In addition, counting those inmates in city and county jails and incarcerated juvenile offenders, the total number of Americans behind bars was 2,212,475 on Dec. 31 last year, the report said.
The report estimated that 44 percent of state and federal prisoners in 2003 were black, compared with 35 percent who were white, 19 percent who were Hispanic and 2 percent who were of other races. The numbers have changed little in the last decade.
Statistically, the number of women in prison is growing fast, rising 3.6 percent in 2003. But at a total of 101,179, they are just 6.9 percent of the prison population.
Alfred Blumstein, a criminologist at Carnegie Mellon University, said one of the most striking findings in the report was that almost 10 percent of all American black men ages 25 to 29 were in prison.
Such a high proportion of young black men behind bars not only has a strong impact on black families, Professor Blumstein said, but "in many ways is self-defeating." The criminal justice system is built on deterrence, with being sent to prison supposedly a stigma, he said. "But it's tough to convey a sense of stigma when so many of your friends and neighbors are similarly stigmatized."
In seeking to explain the paradox of a falling crime rate but a rising prison population, Mr. Beck pointed out that F.B.I. statistics showed that from 1994 to 2003 there was a 16 percent drop in arrests for violent crime, including a 36 percent decrease in arrests for murder and a 25 percent decrease in arrests for robbery.
But the tough new sentencing laws led to a growth in inmates being sent to prison, from 522,000 in 1995 to 615,400 in 2002, the report said.
Similarly, the report found that the average time served by prison inmates rose from 23 months in 1995 to 30 months in 2001.
Among the new measures were mandatory minimum sentencing laws, which required inmates to serve a specified proportion of their time behind bars; truth-in-sentencing laws, which required an inmate to actually serve the time he was sentenced to; and a variety of three-strikes laws increasing the penalties for repeat offenders.
In the three states with the biggest prison systems, California, Texas and Florida, the number of newly admitted inmates grew last year, but the number of those released either fell or remained stable, Mr. Beck said.
Several states with small prison systems had particularly large increases in new inmates, led by North Dakota, up 11.4 percent, and Minnesota, up 10.3 percent.
New York had a 2.8 percent decrease in new inmates, reflecting the continued sharp fall in crime in New York City, Mr. Beck said.
Over all, Mr. Beck said, the prison population is aging. Traditionally the great majority of inmates are men in their 20's and early 30's, but middle-aged inmates, those 40 to 54, account for about half of the increase in the prison population since 1995, he said.
This is a result both of the aging of the general American population and of the longer sentences, Mr. Beck said.
But the number of elderly inmates is still small, despite longer sentences and more life sentences. Those inmates 65 and older were still only 1 percent of the prison population in 2003.
Better than Tom Hanks in Castaway? I doubt it.
Dear genefromjersey,
The NYT has run this story on an annual basis, essentially unchanged, since crime rates started dropping in the '90s.
It has been the stuff of conservative comedy for at least a decade.
The problem for conservatives is that it becomes increasingly difficult to parody liberals.
sitetest
Dear FreedomCalls,
My 10 year old just read this article. His unprompted verbatim response:
"That's stupid. It's because we're getting more of these people in jail."
Maybe he could write for the NYT. I think it would represent a dramatic improvement.
sitetest
the paradox of a falling crime rate but a rising prison population
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