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Now That the Dust Has Settled (winners and losers of this election)
NY Times ^ | 11/7/04 | JOHN TIERNEY

Posted on 11/06/2004 10:55:57 PM PST by Cableguy

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1 posted on 11/06/2004 10:55:57 PM PST by Cableguy
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"Professional Bush-Bashers. They may weep for America, but their literary agents are calculating the royalties and chanting, "Four more years!"

This is what I keep telling people, but few people get this concept. Guys like michael moore couldn't be more delighted by a bush win. They are working on new products as we speak. With Kerry in the White House the gravy train would be over.


2 posted on 11/06/2004 11:01:07 PM PST by orangelobster
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Trial lawyers lost bigtime.


3 posted on 11/06/2004 11:01:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Cableguy

good post


4 posted on 11/06/2004 11:06:52 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Cableguy

Fantastic read! Thank you.


5 posted on 11/06/2004 11:08:31 PM PST by Aim Higher
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Typical NY Times. The bias still shows. The forgot to mention the NRA in the Winners. The NRA won BIG in this election.
6 posted on 11/06/2004 11:13:09 PM PST by pillbox_girl
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The youth vote. The unprecedented get-out-the-vote campaigns turned out so many young Americans that their share of the electorate went from 17 percent in 2000 to 17 percent in 2004.

P. Diddy has a lot of youngsters to kill

7 posted on 11/06/2004 11:15:03 PM PST by elizabetty
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What is it with the MSM and the Swift Boat Vets? The Vets are winners and still are heroes.

The MSM are losers in this whole fiasco.


8 posted on 11/06/2004 11:19:25 PM PST by SmithL (Do I seem like I'm gloating?)
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Big Loser: John Edwards

With all the notoriety that he has picked up from the primaries and the campaign, the Democratic nomination in 2008 is Satan's, er...Hillary Clinton's, to lose.

Edwards also does not have a government office to go back to! What a crying shame :)
9 posted on 11/06/2004 11:32:50 PM PST by newagepublius
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To: Cableguy

Zogby should be ignored from now on. What a jerk he is.


10 posted on 11/06/2004 11:37:56 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: Cableguy

The NY Times was both a loser and a winner. They lost be-
cause they were a part of the Kerry campaign. They won be-
cause they have W to chuck mud at for the next four years.


11 posted on 11/06/2004 11:40:04 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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And I thought only Republicans ate their own..

"I did something I shouldn't have," Mr. Zogby cheerfully confessed on Thursday. "I am a better pollster than predictor."

Wrong, Zogby is a biased pollster that tried to make his prediction come true. Too bad, he toasted yourself. He can join his brother, James Zogby, in the Arab American Institute that James founded.

The youth vote. The unprecedented get-out-the-vote campaigns turned out so many young Americans that their share of the electorate went from 17 percent in 2000 to 17 percent in 2004.

It's all our dumb youth's fault.

Right, if they want to believe that. Did you ever see a Kerry/Edwards register to vote booth? I have in California, and you only had to sign some kind of a name to get a cookie. And the maroons really thought that meant commitment.... who was going to get fired up for a dork Senator from Massachusetts that most people knew nothing about? And if they had known anything about Kerry, he would have received even less votes. I did like his wife, though, for comic value......

12 posted on 11/06/2004 11:45:14 PM PST by xJones
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Kherry-flavoired Kool-aid drinkers one a new title:

BLUE-SER! (Rhymes with 'loser.')


13 posted on 11/06/2004 11:48:21 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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"I did something I shouldn't have," Mr. Zogby cheerfully confessed on Thursday. "I am a better pollster than predictor."

He said that his Election Day prediction was inspired not by the faulty exit polls but mainly by his own polling among young voters and field reports of high turnout among the young.

"I don't know that anyone was hospitalized over my prediction," he said. "If there are any orphans that are out there, from the bottom of my heart I apologize. We'll try to start up a fund."

What an idiot. His predictions and polls were proven wrong, and they were made in no small part due to his bias against Bush, and he acts like it's no big deal. The only reason to listen to idiots like him is when they prove races right. Since he messed this one up so badly, I hope his name becomes mud. (And who would think that the Pew and the NYTimes/CBS polls would be the correct ones?)

14 posted on 11/06/2004 11:48:32 PM PST by NYCVirago
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The biggest loser of all was "old media". This election was the last hurrah for "old media" and the scumbags went to unprecedented lengths (forged documents, for example) to try to hold on by their fingertips to one last shred of relevancy by getting their boy Kerry elected.

Old media lost, and lost big. That noise you hear is old media's death rattle.
Thank God almighty we are free, free at last.


15 posted on 11/06/2004 11:53:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Edwards also does not have a government office to go back to! What a crying shame :)

Yes, but what if he goes back to being a trial lawyer? Can the North Carolina medical services survive his mega-lawsuits? He'll pick a dumb enough jury to pitch his emotional spiels to, and there it goes again...

16 posted on 11/06/2004 11:56:18 PM PST by xJones
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Loser ....

.... The Swift Boat Veterans and the Band of Brothers. What will they do when they don't have each other to kick around? ....


The Swiftvets crossed the finish line in 1st place. They don't need to go anywhere else.

Because unlike frauds like Fat Mike, they were in it for the right reason.
17 posted on 11/07/2004 12:03:58 AM PST by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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You are right, xJones, he could go back to being a trial lawyer, but North Carolina went for Bush! Actually, I think that, with the amount of press the liability insurance issue is getting (especially here in the People's Republic of Maryland, where OB/GYN doctors are almost extinct), Edwards and his ilk have pretty much been discredited.
18 posted on 11/07/2004 12:22:04 AM PST by newagepublius
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To: SmithL
It's getting to be such a cliche, but the MSM can't handle the truth. As propagandists for commies like Kerry, they were totally in the bag. Therefore, they had to and continue to slander the brave Swiftees who exposed Kerry for the fraud that he is. This is an injustice that begs to be corrected. Please see below and keep pressing for the media to admit the truth.

A Matter of Honor

19 posted on 11/07/2004 1:09:13 AM PST by OhMike (He which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart...we would not die in that man's company.)
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WOW. A good and balanced article on politics from the Times. Are all of their regular writers and editors on sick leave right now or something?


20 posted on 11/07/2004 1:24:39 AM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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