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To: Alouette
"Terrorists imprisoned in Israel said in a series of interviews released this week that the actions of Israeli leftists helped encourage Hamas to carry out suicide bombings and that Palestinians view Israel's planned withdrawal from Gaza as a reward for terror.

Sounds like Israel has as many useful idiots (percentage wise) as the United States. Do these fools think that the terrorists asks all the liberal Jews to get off the bus before he blows it up?

11 posted on 11/07/2004 7:44:00 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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The jewish anti simits are not anti simits, because they are jews. They are anti-Israel and anti-zionism however.
Their belief is that the land of Israel will be given back to the jews after they masshiah arrival, therefore the jewish poeple have no right to establish a state in zion before that. Luckily they are a minority in the jewish world, however the sad part is that some of them live right here in Israel and say there is no place for a jewish state.

I guess they didn't learn the lesson from the holocaust-
we can only trust ourself and the Israeli Defence Forces to maintain our existment, State of Israel is the safest place for jews, and only State of Israel can prevent a second holocaust that can raise after a crazy fanatic decides that the jews are taking control of the world.


12 posted on 11/07/2004 9:06:37 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I think most of the Israeli people are disillusioned with the "peace process" and have little patience for the far left.

Unfortunately the far left, just as here, control the media and make the loudest noise.

Israel has a very F%&Ked up political system with multiple parties, so that after every election the party with the plurality has to scramble and make strange deals with minority parties, many of whom hate each other's guts and refuse to sit on the same coalition.

The current situation is the way it is precisely because Sharon won a mandate from the Israeli people by promising to fight terrorism. The ultra-religious voters who would have normally voted for Shas or NRP went over to the Likud, and the Labor Peresites who were disgusted with their own party but couldn't bring themselves to vote for the Likud so they voted for Shinui, whose one and only party plank is "Let's do everything we can to make religious people miserable."

Add to that the socialist, nannystate mentality of the Histadrut (labor unionists) and you have one big mess.

The secular, liberal Israeli leftists like to claim they represent the "majority" of Israelis even though they got their tushes kicked in the last election. They are also being demographically swamped by the Orthodox who have an even higher birth rate than the Arabs.

The mentality of the leftists is to fixate on "the settlements" (populated mainly by religious Zionists) and on the "fanatical haredim" as the cause of all of Israel's problems, recommend all kinds of draconian measures be taken against the "Haredim" and the "right-wing extremists" but continue to coddle and offer gifts of appeasement to terrorists who would very happily chop off their heads.

It's the bloody coalition, stupid!

14 posted on 11/07/2004 9:19:05 PM PST by Alouette (Schadenfreude--it's better than prozac!)
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