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Defiant Fox Hunters Open Season That Could Be Britain's Last if Government Bans Sport
Associated Press ^ | Nov 6, 2004 | Tim Elfrink

Posted on 11/06/2004 4:42:48 PM PST by Pharmboy

LONDON (AP) - Tens of thousands of hunters and their hounds raced through the countryside on horseback Saturday, opening a fox-hunting season that could be one of Britain's last. The more than 300 hunts had a defiant air, with participants still angry over the government's plans to ban hunting with hounds.

The House of Commons voted two months ago to outlaw the sport. The House of Lords refuses to endorse the bill, but the government has threatened to force it into law anyway by next year.

Fox hunting supporters were undaunted.

"We are just as determined to be here next November and the November after that as we ever have been," said Darren Hughes, a spokesman for the pro-hunt group Countryside Alliance.

At the prestigious Beaufort Hunt on the Gloucestershire-Wiltshire border in western England, some 200 people on horses and about 400 supporters gathered under rainy skies in a stalwart mood.

"A lot of people are committed to continuing to hunt whatever happens and a lot of people just cannot believe that a government could be so irresponsible as to put this as such a high priority when there's so much wrong in the country," said Nigel Maidment, secretary of the hunt.

Supporters of the ban argue that killing foxes with hounds is cruel, and have advocated other methods of population control.

At the Beaufort Hunt, some said traditional hunting methods, in which dogs kill the prey, are still the most humane.

"(The ban) is the most misplaced idea on animal welfare one could imagine," said Christopher Mulholland, the vicar of Badminton, from his horse.

Hunting supporters also pointed to the possible economic consequences of a ban. One estimate said a ban could put as many as 8,000 people out of work - not only employees of some 200 hunts around the country but also saddlers, blacksmiths, grooms and stablehands.

"Hunting is too important to lose for the local community," said Ian Farquhar, a captain of the Beaufort Hunt.

Lawmakers' efforts to ban fox hunting have brought fierce resistance from pro-hunt activists since the House of Commons passed the bill in September.

In October, five pro-hunt supporters ran into the House of Commons chamber and disrupted debate. Individual Labour Party ministers and lawmakers have recently been the target of protesters, including Leader of the Commons Peter Hain, who was pelted with eggs during a speech in Oxfmrd.

Pro-hunting activists have also promised open defiance of any ban on hunting.

"An awful lot of people have said they will defy any hunting ban," Hughes said. "People are more determined now than ever."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: animalrights; foxhunting; geowashington; hunting; petanazis
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George Washington began his climb up the Virginia social ladder by leading the (fox) hunt for Lord Fairfax at the age of sixteen. He loved the hunt. Anything the General loved cannot be without significant worth, IMO.
1 posted on 11/06/2004 4:42:48 PM PST by Pharmboy
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I just hope the British parliament comes to its senses and recinds the ban. After all, we don't want a bunch of buck toothed British idiots riding horses around Virginia chasing foxes while yelling, "Tally Ho!"


2 posted on 11/06/2004 4:45:24 PM PST by Lunkhead_01
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This is a war by urban sob sisters and bed wetters on rural England and historic England.


3 posted on 11/06/2004 4:45:44 PM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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They should ban Rugby. A lot of those games
get out of hand and PEOPLE get hurt.


4 posted on 11/06/2004 4:45:46 PM PST by the Deejay (ACLU = America's Clueless LUNATICS United.)
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They should count up the number of people who either aren't bothered by hunting, or support it. Tally, you ho's.


5 posted on 11/06/2004 4:46:42 PM PST by squarebarb
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"An awful lot of people have said they will defy any hunting ban," Hughes said. "People are more determined now than ever."

It's good to see the Brits stand up to their overbearing government on this issue.

Maybe, one day, Brits will understand that the people are really the government, not a bunch of bureaucrats.

6 posted on 11/06/2004 4:49:47 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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"(The ban) is the most misplaced idea on animal welfare one could imagine," said Christopher Mulholland, the vicar of Badminton, from his horse.

This has nothing to do with animals and everything to do with the Euro Lefties trying to rip apart the institutions and traditions of Britain. This is the political equivalent of the anarchists going nuts in The Square Mile breaking windows and burning Jaguars. I hope the hunt survives.


7 posted on 11/06/2004 4:51:41 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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WAIT a minute here...I played two years of Rugby and...er, ah, yes indeed...cost me four back operations. Hmmm...mebbe yer right.

Nah--the beer parties afterwards were worth it.

8 posted on 11/06/2004 4:51:50 PM PST by Pharmboy (With Republicans like Arlen Specter, we don't need Democrats)
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"Tally, you ho's"

Is this like the street -gutter talk, "Tally, you hos?"

9 posted on 11/06/2004 4:55:01 PM PST by GOPologist
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Actually, I was thinking about the games when the major fights break out, and people not only get hurt but some get killed. Usually, innocent bystanders just trying to get out of the way.

Four back operations....and you enjoyed those?

10 posted on 11/06/2004 4:57:39 PM PST by the Deejay (ACLU = America's Clueless LUNATICS United.)
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"Can I get me a huntin' licence here?"


11 posted on 11/06/2004 5:00:33 PM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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Yes.

Perhaps in my desperate search for a pun I was being too crude.


12 posted on 11/06/2004 5:02:00 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: Pharmboy

How can one hunt foxes without guns? What do the use? Spitballs?


13 posted on 11/06/2004 5:02:21 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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No no no...fights break out at SOCCER games amongst fans, never Rugby.

It has been said: Soccer is a gentleman's game played by ruffians and Rugby is a ruffian's game played by gentlemen. No truer words ever spoken.

And no, the operations were not fun, but most people (there are now many women's Rugby teams on campuses across the country) survive the sport with a sprain or strain--or at worst, a broken nose or knee. I was a bit unlucky, but that's life.

14 posted on 11/06/2004 5:04:03 PM PST by Pharmboy (With Republicans like Arlen Specter, we don't need Democrats)
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To: the Deejay

yeh, I wish these people could get as excited about mass burials in Iraq.


15 posted on 11/06/2004 5:04:16 PM PST by madameguinot (Three Days of the Condor)
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To: squarebarb

PERFECT!!!!!!


16 posted on 11/06/2004 5:04:59 PM PST by GOPologist
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I think the dogs do the killin' Zell.


17 posted on 11/06/2004 5:05:37 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (How can 55,949,407 people be so (dumb/clueless/insane/deluded/evil)?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

The hounds kill the fox--no guns.


18 posted on 11/06/2004 5:06:16 PM PST by Pharmboy (With Republicans like Arlen Specter, we don't need Democrats)
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This is madness. The Brits have traditions woven into their history and culture- and fox hunting is one of the grandest. England is already being over run by multiculturists...I hope the Brits put up a good fight over this crap.


19 posted on 11/06/2004 5:10:15 PM PST by SE Mom (To Chirac: No blood for chocolate!)
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I could sure use them, here. I just let my 2 shepards out 'to the chase', and they failed to get the little chicken thief. They sure have been trying, though.

I'm willing to try Brits with horses.

20 posted on 11/06/2004 5:13:51 PM PST by monkeywrench
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