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Europeans face tough choices on Islam
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 11/6/04 | Brian Murphy - AP

Posted on 11/06/2004 3:10:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 11/06/2004 3:10:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, the moors were thrown out in 1470...

I believe today the same should be done!


2 posted on 11/06/2004 3:12:26 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: NormsRevenge

Decisions,decisions. Surrender or run. Too late. Europe is screwed.


3 posted on 11/06/2004 3:16:30 PM PST by Mr. Keys (Sensitive war? French recipe for disaster)
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"membership talks with Turkey, a Muslim nation of about 70 million people and a galloping birthrate that could push it past Germany's population in a generation"

Not only that but Turkey will be the gateway for the whole Middle East.

Holland got it's first taste and how this plays out will be extremely interesting. The Dutch have less than 20 years before they will be the minority.


4 posted on 11/06/2004 3:16:51 PM PST by matchwood
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To: NormsRevenge

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MESSAGE to EUROPEANS...

WHEN ISLAM RADICALS HAVE CAUSED CIVIL STRIFE AND DISRUPTION IN EU, DO NOT LOOK TO THE UNITED STATES TO PICK UP THE PIECES. WE ARE NOT STUPID, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK. WE WILL JUST STAND BY AND LET IT HAPPEN.

PAYBACK IS A BIT*H ISN'T IT!


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5 posted on 11/06/2004 3:18:59 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: NormsRevenge

This article is full of inaccuracies.

'A five-page letter pinned to the body of Theo van Gogh..."

WRONG. The message was not 'pinned' to the body -- it was affixed by a knife plunged into the body.


'Other messages - later left at the sidewalk shrine where the 47-year-old filmmaker's throat was slashed - dripped with equal venom against radical Islam. "Enemies live among us," read one missive in a bed of flowers, votive candles and crosses.'

WRONG. His throat was not 'slashed.' His throat was sawn through in an attempt to behead the infidel.

And if you think that 'Enemies live among us,' is equal in venom to a murder with an accompanying call to more murder -- well, what's the point of talking to such people?

The one hopeful thing is the outpouring of Christian sentiment. You can't beat something with nothing. And right now militant Islam is very appealing to young people looking for a 'cause' to live for. Christianity has been suppressed to the point where there's nothing to stand up for... I hope more Europeans re-embrace their heritage.


6 posted on 11/06/2004 3:22:32 PM PST by Jerez2
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Europe isn't screwed. Tbere will be a battle to save it..it will be epic, and bloody.. Burt first, the poeple will have to toss out the pols who have lead them to this place of peril. The EU is doomed..it will fragment. The Brits won't join, and increasing acts of terrorism inside Europe will make countries realizes that the big state can;t protect them..You'll see one, or more smaller nations..Denmark, Norway, maybe the Netherlands..clsoe its borders to AArab immigrants..end the open policy of allowing family emmebers to come, and start deporting people..tThe democratic insitutions i Europe are only 50+ years old..the idea of absolute civil liberties is NOT as ingrained in their political psyche as is ours..


7 posted on 11/06/2004 3:27:58 PM PST by ken5050
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, come on, this was the work of a single solitary insane Muslim. Hardly a reason to condemn Islam. Just because Muhammad ordered three assassinations and the Koran advocates Jihad and terrorizing the non Muslim enemy through beheadings doesn't mean that ......


8 posted on 11/06/2004 3:28:41 PM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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Muslim communities in Europe are having babies three times faster than Christian Europeans, Christian Europeans needs to have more babies, or they can kiss Christian Europe goodbye in about 100 years!


9 posted on 11/06/2004 3:28:49 PM PST by FreeRep
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They would not listen, they did not know how. Perhaps they'll listen now.--Don McLean, "Vincent"


10 posted on 11/06/2004 3:29:32 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (In the smiling twilight of the new political morning, the unwashed told their betters to shove it.)
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From a physical point of view, it's still not too late. There are more Europeans than Muslims still, and the Europeans own the armies and the police.

But that's assuming they can wake up and smell the roses. It's extremely doubtful that they will until too late. So far no one but the extremists and the nut cases seem to understand what is at stake, and the way they have presented the case has persuaded the majority that they are nasty racists.

The Europeans only have one way out of this mess. 1) Round up the Muslims and ship them out, right now, while they are still a minority. 2) Throw away their condoms and birth control pills, get properly married, and start having more European babies. 3) Spend some of their money on self-defense instead of on toys and drugs. 4) Start going to church again.

The likelihood of their doing anything like this is just about zero. They won't wake up until the Muslims start slitting their throats en masse, and then it will be too late.


11 posted on 11/06/2004 3:30:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge
Americans Facing Tough Choices on Islam, Too.

.45 or 9mm ... Hmmmmm ...

13 posted on 11/06/2004 3:36:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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Thanks much for the awful truth here. Why is some of the press holding this back, these necessary details? Necessary for understanding this murderous scum, what his motives were. Your account is the first I've heard of the note being "pinned" to Van Gogh via a knife plunged into his chest.


14 posted on 11/06/2004 3:37:11 PM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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The Moors "crossed" into Europe? That's rich. The Moors (Arabs)swarmed out of Arabian peninsula towards the empires of the East and the West, and they burned and slashed and killed and raped and pillaged and plundered, and spread the religion of peace as they went along.
15 posted on 11/06/2004 3:38:49 PM PST by parisa
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test


16 posted on 11/06/2004 3:41:10 PM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Pitiricus; knighthawk
Well, the moors were thrown out in 1470...

Ferdinand and Isabella, although they threw out a lot of babies with the Muslim bathwater.

Pinging our resident Dutch Freeper: Knighthawk, if you're around, what do you see, FRiend?

17 posted on 11/06/2004 3:41:34 PM PST by xJones
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To: NormsRevenge
The Moors "crossed" into Europe? That's rich. The Moors (Arabs)swarmed out of Arabian peninsula towards the empires of the East and the West, and they burned and slashed and killed and raped and pillaged and plundered, and spread the religion of peace as they went along.
18 posted on 11/06/2004 3:42:35 PM PST by parisa
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To: FredZarguna
don't forget .40, .308 & .223
19 posted on 11/06/2004 3:45:43 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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The Moors "crossed" into Europe? That's rich. The Moors (Arabs)swarmed......


And to think that when we taught Shakespeare in eighth grade we had to have it explained, what a Moor was. And even then we weren't sure


20 posted on 11/06/2004 3:50:20 PM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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