[Ed_in_NJ]

If W had done this, there would be a huge cry from the left about 'separation of church and state' -- rats have been duping blacks for ages by using their clergy.

[DainBramage]

Over looking immorality is exactly why so many black men are in prison in the first place.

Fifty percent of them probably hung up and said "Damn Cracker runnin' for president".

[kcvl]

bttt

[dennisw]

good post!!!!!

Sun Oct 17,12:59 PM ET
Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry (news - web sites) (R) arrives in church as the choir sings a hymn at the Mount Olivet Baptist Church in Columbus, Ohio October 17, 2004. If re-elected, President Bush (news - web sites) plans a 'big January surprise' and will move quickly to allow some private Social Security (news - web sites) accounts that will reduce benefits for retirees and swell the U.S. deficit, Kerry said. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

 

 

[leprechaun9]

Take a good look at the leaders of the Dems: AN ACCUSED RAPIST INTRODUCING AN ADMIITED WAR CRIMINAL!

This two represent the essence of the Democrap Party!

[risk]

I said you guys might have saved the republic. Maybe it's true. The margin of four million included enough conservative black votes, didn't it? Maybe more? My hat's off. Thanks again. We should never forget this historic year, and the fact that the descendants of men who used to buy their freedom for $710.96 (and who cared enough to fight on both sides of our CW1) stood in 2004 for families, tradition, freedom (for all) and unity in the war.

[tkathy]

How about the clergy providing strong moral leadership instead of mindless, manipulative demagoguery???

[Just mythoughts]

The transformation has already begun for Hillry. No in your face shrill from her mouth since election day.

A stealth movement has begun, Hillry must overcome what the liberals now believe the reason they lost, religion.

Liberal tools this season were unadulterated media support, reenacting Vietnam, 'youth vote', 'fear to seniors', elitism, party of superior intelligence, pop culture, and vote fraud.

JFKerry seemed to become aware of the 'moral' divide early in October and became a super preacher.

Still with all these tools who defeated them those 'evil' religious zealots.

Imagine a humble, meek, saintly Hillry appearing, transformed by a miraculous religious experience.... hubby's surgery... maybe or some unknown event yet to occur.

[stevem]

First, I surely hope the GOP learned something from this, although we can be a "stiff-necked" bunch as well as anyone in ignoring the decency attraction of the Bush agenda. All the next candidate needs to do is imagine picking off another one or two blue states by catering to moderation. He will see the advantage in the red states evaporate like the dew in Death Valley. That's what I took from this election.

Second, if I understand a Gallup result I read, blacks in this country only shifted an additional 2% to Bush, from 9% to 11%, perhaps even a smaller jump than that. If that's true, then the Democrats stand on moral issues hasn't caused all that much erosion to the extreme liberal bent to the black population. It's simply an overwhelmingly liberal demographic, and conservatives may have better luck working with Jews and Hispanics. We keep hearing messages to the contrary, but there is no evidence in real life.

It's been a fun wek for me, almost euphoric. I have to temper that with one caveat. I live in Minnesota. In a state that lead the nation in voter turnout, even as high as that nationwide turnout was, Kerry still won Minnesota by a nearly insurmountable 98,000 votes. For the life of me, I can't see where we will find 98,001 more sensible voters. I have this gnawing fear that Minnesota is simply a liberal state...like Massachusetts. Still, I'd much rather lose this battle and win the war rather than have it the other way around. And, I've been active in the party for a dozen years so will likely relax a few more days and attack again.

No matter what, it's been a satisfying week, so let's enjoy the moment.

[Bellflower]

ping

[LS]

Not long ago I saw a petition against gay marriage by almost 100 black ministers, including some VERY famous televangelists such as Keith Butler, Fred Price, and Glenn Plummer. I can't recall if T. D. Jakes was on it, but I think he was. This is not something to ignore. These ministers not only have huge congregations (remember Bush addressed Jakes' congregation by video in 2000 and got a cool reception) but they have MASSIVE television ministries. I'm telling you, as I know Pastor Price personally, the tide is SLOWLY turning in the black Christian community to where they no longer think they can trust the Dems to protect them.

[Grampa Dave]

Senator Kerry, because of your Pro Gay Marriage position, the Devil has impregnated you with one of Je$$e HyJack$on's love children! After you give birth to Je$$e's love child, it will call you MaMa! This will happen after GW kicks your butt in the election.

[jocon307]

"When you're telling clergy folks that things many Christians regard as sins don't matter, you might not want an admitted philanderer to be the guy introducing you."

LOL! Good point, and an excellent illustration of Kerry's stone cold tone deafness.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

"I ask you not to be diverted from the real issue in this case," Kerry told the ministers.

"Thanks you, oh thank you for deigning to come all the way down here in order to inform we lowly, ignorant black voters what our 'real issues' ought to be in this election," many of said ministers snickered quietly, in response. :)