Posted on 11/05/2004 9:37:51 AM PST by NormsRevenge
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger may have beaten back ballot measures aimed at expanding gambling in California, but he hasn't succeeded in striking deals with a majority of casino-owning American Indian tribes to share revenue.
After the divisive election, the governor and tribes remain in a standoff, with neither side willing to be the first to head to the bargaining table.
The tribes are still bitter over Schwarzenegger's campaign remarks that they were "ripping off" the state. Their demand for an apology has gone unanswered.
"Let them come to me and negotiate," Schwarzenegger said soon after the election, predicting tribes will eventually want to work out a deal.
Some tribes, however, said they don't need to bargain.
Deron Marquez, chairman of the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians, said his tribe is content with operating 2,000 slot machines - the maximum allowed under current law.
"We can stay with the current compacts or we can wait for the governor to leave office," Marquez said. "We certainly have the leverage. The governor, if he wants to negotiate, he has to come to us. He needs us."
I. Nelson Rose, a law professor at Whittier College and expert on gambling, said tribes have the upper hand because of the ironclad casino agreements granted by former Gov. Gray Davis.
"I think Schwarzenegger was able to win the hand and he has a little stack of chips," Rose said of Tuesday's election. "But Davis gave tribes a pile of chips and unbreakable compacts. So they'll just wait it out."
Schwarzenegger, struggling to pay off California's nearly $8 billion deficit, struck deals with 10 tribes earlier this year requiring them to pay the state as much as 25 percent of their gambling revenue in exchange for operating more slot machines.
The deals were expected to bring the state hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
The two ballot measures defeated Tuesday could have doubled that amount, but Schwarzenegger feared California could turn into another Nevada.
Proposition 70 would have allowed tribes to operate an unlimited number of slot machines along with offering roulette and craps - games that are currently banned in California. The measure was defeated by 76 percent of voters.
Proposition 68 would have let card clubs and racetracks in six counties operate a total of 30,000 slot machines. It was opposed by 84 percent of voters.
Combined spending by opponents and supporters of the measures exceeded $100 million. But in the end, the initiatives couldn't stand up to the popularity of Schwarzenegger.
On Wednesday, the governor said he was close to new gambling deals with five more tribes. Still, he has yet to reach agreements with a majority of the state's 53 casino-owning tribes.
The main dispute has been over relinquishing control. Schwarzenegger wants tougher environmental protections, authority to audit casinos, and participation by communities in how casinos are developed. Tribes contend those demands would undermine their sovereignty rights granted by the federal government.
I would rather we had Casinos opened throughout the state regardless of race. The current arrangement is racist to the core.
As a Californian, maybe we should just STOP GAMBLING IN CALIFORNIA until the very spoiled Indians become part of the team. Arnie is no push-over...THE THING THE INDIANS NEED TO BE TOLD IS THAT IT IS N-O-W THE WILL OF THE VOTERS THAT MANDATE THEY SHARE IN THE REVENUES FROM THEIR PRIVILEGES. GAMBLING IS NOT A RIGHT IN CALIFORNIA -- IT IS A GIFT...presently. That can change.
I would rather we had Casinos opened throughout the state regardless of race. The current arrangement is racist to the core.
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Hey, I am all for it. Open it up. That would take care of Arnie's issue, satisfy the will of the voters easily, and quickly pay down our $30 BILLION in liberal debt.
The whole experiment has been an absolute bummer.
Equine feces. The externalities of gambling impoverish a society while chasing an ever more marginal dollar. Gambling produces nothing for export except crime, debt, and ruined families. As gaming institutions proliferate they'll make less in profit and less public revenue to deal with an ever larger problem.
Our debt load is just over 50 billion, not 30 billion..
It doesn't matter how many casinos are opened and who runs them at this point.
This state has lived deliciously the last few years under dem control and will pay for it.
All the scrambling by local govt and the GUb to try and stake their claims will be for not as long as the liebral socialistic demRats are allowed to run herd in Sacramento.
Even the Q factor of aRnold has had little impact, imo.
W.A.S.S.
This state has lived deliciously the last few years under dem control and will pay for it.
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Yes, but it has been much longer than a few years. Decades is more like it -- I am old enough to remember the days when Calif was a CONSERVATIVE STATE RUN BY CONSERVATIVES and it was the model for the nation. To scores in every respect...demographics, economic, educational, motivated businesses...all of it. Now, the "excrement touch" of the liberals has put it at and near the bottom of the country in most of those previous winning categories.
This nation just does not seem to learn...when you let in and support liberal control, gold turns to excrement. I also heard our fine "Miss Communist America"...Nancy Pelosi speaking today. What a brain-dead fool she is...and voted back in by the liberal voters in this state...what absolute fools they are as well. Just more of the same --
Nevada seems to do fine.
Tell that to the State legislature, which was looking to raise taxes because revenue is insufficient to the growing population.
Marginal revenue drops as a market saturates. It's a law of economics.
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