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The view from England (by an American)...
5 Nov. 2004 | NavyGuy

Posted on 11/05/2004 5:53:39 AM PST by navyguy

I am an American currently working in England. I have been here for the last month and thought you might like to know what I've been seeing here...

Let me first say that the Brits are great people! They are cordial, giving, inviting and very decent people. I myself have old family roots here. There ARE some very vocal Socialists here, but I have no issue with the British people.

First, the pre-election media coverage of the election was totally skewed against President Bush. There wasn't even an attempt to hide it. As the election drew closer the coverage grew increasingly hostile. Further, the tone transformed from criticism of Bush to berating not just the president but anyone who supported him. In nearly every story I saw Republicans were characterized as complete religious zealots. In fact, like the US, leftists here believe that ALL conservative are Christian fanatics. I actually had to correct several Brits here that this was NOT the case. They seemed shocked. The tone rapidly descended into simple insults, with average americans routinely being called 'idiots', 'morons', 'stupid', etc... This tone continued, night after night for at least 10-12 days. If a european tells you they aren't anti-AMERICAN I can tell you they are lying. They simply do not like us, anything we do or anything we represent. I never saw a single postive word about Americans or America as a whole. I was told that were were 'too hung up on the US Constitution." This, above all, really disturbed me.

I never saw a single story about ANYTHING positive happening in Iraq. Ever.

I now know that europeans, for all of their 'sophistication' and 'worldliness', harbor serious misconceptions about America. For example, I saw New Mexico described as "a relatively small, mostly poor state." In fact, I saw a 1 hour documentary done by a Brit travelling through the states that essentially described America as a boiling cauldron of poverty, racism and violence. I could not believe what I was seeing. I saw southerners (I live in North carolina) described as "backwards", "fundamentalists" and "stupid". Farmers in the mid-west were described as "simple folk". There were many other examples as well. I now understand that europeans are half as sophisticated and worldly as they think they are. Most of them do NOT understand America. I finally got some of my coworkers here to admit as much.

There is a TOTAL anti-gun bias here. I saw it in the media over and over again. They are now trying to ban knives, BB guns and replicas of guns as well.

The Nanny State reigns supreme here. I predict that in 25 years the UK will be totally Socialist. If you want to see what the US would be like after 50 years of total Liberal domination come here for awhile. You won't like what you see.

After the election the anti-american torrent CONTINUED. Unreal.

The Guardian is viewed as MAINSTREAM MEDIA here.

It will be awhile before I return here. I love England and its people and its great and honorable history, but it is only a shadow of its former self.

Thank God for the Daily Telegraph.

Just thought you'd like to know. Cheers!


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To: DestroytheDemocrats
re : Their views are shaped by propaganda and they probably don't even know it.

Funny I told my mate that about the Americans. Americans believe anything, thats why your internet is full of urban myths that people swear is true.

Tony

41 posted on 11/05/2004 6:34:11 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: navyguy
"I never saw a single postive word about Americans or America as a whole. I was told that were were 'too hung up on the US Constitution." This, above all, really disturbed me."

"I never saw a single story about ANYTHING positive happening in Iraq. Ever."

Hitler was able to accomplish quite a bit with propaganda. Europe has been subjected to leftist propaganda since the beginning of time. If it wasn't for the internet, a majority of us would have marched down the same path. The free press really isn't very free, it's a tool for the powerful.
42 posted on 11/05/2004 6:35:02 AM PST by lotusblos
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To: navyguy

Their "finest hour" seems to have passed some time ago. it's a shame really.


43 posted on 11/05/2004 6:35:26 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Samwise
re : I'm sorry to hear that they hate us so much. I've always been an Anglophile myself. Is it just the media, or are the people becoming that way too?

We don’t hate you, but I have to admit after a day of freeping where Americans are telling me that my country stinks, that we had our asses kicked, that you saved us from the Germans, that we are all nancy boys, that we are all bucked teeth, and so on and so forth.

I have to admit that then maybe Americans are not my most favorite people.

Cheers Tony

44 posted on 11/05/2004 6:37:43 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tscislaw
We are descendants of brave people who threw off the yoke of tyranny whereas their ancestors embraced it.

Nonsense. The British fought off Napolean, the Kaiser and Hitler. King George was a jerk to the colonies, but he was pretty weak at home- Parliament routinely walked all over him. To say the British "embraced tyranny" flies in the face of history.

45 posted on 11/05/2004 6:38:01 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I am very familiar with Democratic Underground. Losers all. What surprises me here is the BLATANTLY anti-american bent in the mainstream media here. I can't think of a single major news outlet in the US that could get away with anti-euro sentiment they way these news outlets get away with anti-american sentiment. I mean it is IN YOUR FACE. ALL THE TIME.

I guess I'm just disappointed that the Brits have allowed themselves to come to this.

And the previous British poster was right... American concpets of freedom do have their roots in England. So what has happened to England?


46 posted on 11/05/2004 6:38:13 AM PST by navyguy
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To: navyguy
I never saw a single story about ANYTHING positive happening in Iraq. Ever.

Must be a requirement to be employed by the MSM whever one goes.

47 posted on 11/05/2004 6:38:42 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women - Conan)
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To: tonycavanagh
Strange that Tone, because thats the way I'm starting to feel. ;)
48 posted on 11/05/2004 6:39:04 AM PST by AngloSaxon (successful)
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To: chimera
It is not strange at all. They are jealous of our power. The reason why it feels "strange" is because for the first 200 years we were jealous of their power and we have not moved our mind set on this yet. The US will come to know the real Britain soon. When that day comes Britain will just have to learn to live with her second place just as we did. All you are seeing now are her shock and disbelief that maybe her feelings of superiority in the last decades have been unfounded. I believe the MSM has perpetuated the "illusion" of the old EU too long. Let's get the word out over the net about how they really are and end this charade.
49 posted on 11/05/2004 6:39:56 AM PST by Earthdweller (GGGGrandfather came over from England and Ireland for the American dream.)
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To: Earthdweller

"They are jealous of our power."

Waaaaaaahaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Now that's funny!


50 posted on 11/05/2004 6:41:14 AM PST by AngloSaxon (successful)
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To: pau1f0rd
For the record. the most vociferous critics of America in England are Americans.

American expatriates are the worst haters of the USA. Even my communist German girlfriend at the Sorbonne thought that the American students living in Paris were nutty.

51 posted on 11/05/2004 6:41:44 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: sushiman
re : Thank God for George Washington and the Valley Forge guys who got us out from this den of iniquity , snobbishness , and accent ...England went soft in the outhouse back in the 60's ...

Of course we did, that’s why no British troops are in Afghanistan, and no British troops are in Iraq, and no British troops moved North at the request of the American Military to support the assault Falluja.

And three British soldiers were not killed yesterday as part of this operation.

52 posted on 11/05/2004 6:42:22 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: AngloSaxon
Slap a yank night tonight, no only joking.

Cheers Tony

53 posted on 11/05/2004 6:43:30 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: navyguy
I wonder how much of their irrational hatred of America and Americans comes from their own long-standing yoke of classism, and the jealousy from seeing that we are not burdened by it here as they are there.
54 posted on 11/05/2004 6:44:26 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Earthdweller
re :It is not strange at all. They are jealous of our power

HA HA HA HA HA

TEE HEE TEE HEE

Thanks for posting this joke I needed a laugh, glad to see some freepers have a sense of humour.

Tony

55 posted on 11/05/2004 6:45:02 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tjwmason
I'm not trying to start a mutual flame-war, but over here Parliament makes law; the courts interpret it. It works, it has done for centuries; and it would seem that that was the intention of the founding fathers of the U.S.

I think such a system can only work in a place like England where the people are such lovers of tradition. A Westminster parliamentary system could very well slide into an elected dictatorship. However, the culture of British politics and the huge weight of tradition behind it, makes such a slide almost impossible.

56 posted on 11/05/2004 6:45:28 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: navyguy
Do you get a chance to view CNN International there?
If so, is it as bad as I have heard?
57 posted on 11/05/2004 6:45:59 AM PST by kanawa (Only losers look for exit strategies. Winners figure out how to win.)
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To: lotusblos; navyguy
re:I never saw a single postive word about Americans or America as a whole.

Total Bollox.

I read the papers every day and there are lots of positive stories about America as well as negative.

Cheers Tony

58 posted on 11/05/2004 6:47:06 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: AngloSaxon

Me thinks thou dost protest too much..tee hee.


59 posted on 11/05/2004 6:47:55 AM PST by Earthdweller (GGGGrandfather came over from England and Ireland for the American dream.)
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To: navyguy

Its time for us Americans to circle the wagons.


60 posted on 11/05/2004 6:48:16 AM PST by razzle
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