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It's Over! Did the Catholic Vote Really Count?
Ignatius Insight ^ | 11/04/04 | Valerie Schmalz

Posted on 11/04/2004 6:57:48 PM PST by jrherreid

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To: livius

Yep. Even when bishops are good, pastors and secretaries sabotage them.


21 posted on 11/05/2004 10:29:49 AM PST by jrherreid
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To: bushinohio

I wish more of the bishops would have come out and encouraged their faithful to vote pro-life. :(


22 posted on 11/05/2004 10:34:17 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: jrherreid; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


23 posted on 11/24/2004 8:22:56 AM PST by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
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To: jrherreid

You know, there were many things that won this election for Bush and for the good of the US. So many groups can stake a claim for getting those votes which put Bush over that it can't be mistaken: It was the Hand of God moving this election.


24 posted on 11/24/2004 8:27:18 AM PST by tiki (Won one against the Flipper)
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To: Slump Tester

"It killed me (too) everytime I saw a 'Catholics for Kerry' bumper sticker. (They were everywhere.)

Made me wish I had some that said 'Catholics for abortion' or 'No Fetus Can Beat Us' to stick on next to it. (When I'd see them in a parking lot.)


25 posted on 11/24/2004 8:25:44 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Slump Tester

Very cool. I'll email a that to my son. He's in Goose Creek, SC at Navy nuke school.


26 posted on 11/24/2004 8:42:09 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; G Larry
There was another neat "Air & Space" article I'm trying to find - It was about a space ship that was to propel itself through space by exploding nukes behind itself.

I can't find the Air & Space article, but here's two good ones that Google found about it:

Project Orion: Its Life, Death, and Possible Rebirth

More stuff on Project Orion

27 posted on 11/25/2004 4:17:13 AM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: bushinohio
This is still sad. Catholics should have voted for Bush by at least 70%. I don't see how any subject, except maybe the war on terror, could take precedence over the daily slaughtering of thousands of innocent babies. Almost HALF of our Catholics voted for a man who approves this practice. I am ashamed of them.

Well, it's because many Catholics are cultural, "In Name Only" Catholics. Much like most Jews, who should be supporting Bush because of his pro-Israel policies, vote Democrat. As you segment each of these groups by their observance of their religion, you see the trend skew towards Bush.

Absent that segmenting, the best measure of their voting is simply to compare it to 2000, and in that case, Bush still saw a remarkable growth among Catholics.
28 posted on 11/26/2004 5:44:11 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die; bushinohio

What I also should add is that making Bush's 4% jump amongst all Catholic more remarkable is that Bush was running against a Catholic this time, which should have actually hurt him. But thankfully, my fellow Catholics are starting to get wise, and vote for the man rather than "the home team".


29 posted on 11/26/2004 5:46:29 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: NJ Neocon

I'm not really sure why you consider being anti-death penalty and pro-civil rights to be socialist.


30 posted on 11/26/2004 5:47:30 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: NJ Neocon
Catholic Democrats now need to press their party to change its disastrous pro-abortion and anti-marriage policies," Chaput said Friday. "Catholic Republicans need to press the second Bush Administration to find a way out of Iraq and seriously attend to issues like education, immigration, support for the elderly and families, and help for the poor."

The above is from part 2 of the posted article at ignatiusinsight.com.

What positon does the Bishop want us to press the Bush administration to take regarding education? Federal vouchers? More federal money?

31 posted on 11/26/2004 6:03:54 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson (Mission Accomplished!)
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To: Conservative til I die
Your right. They are not necessarily so. I apologize. The ARE generally associated more with the left and liberalism (and socialists) than Conservatives, especially Capital Punishment.
32 posted on 11/28/2004 12:53:36 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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