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What Went Wrong?
The New Republic Online ^ | 11.04.04 | Peter Beinart

Posted on 11/04/2004 4:39:10 PM PST by thegreatbeast

The other side may be euphoric, but the intensity of their happiness can't match the intensity of our despair. Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term. They know he staked his presidency on a catastrophe, and that, by all rights, Iraq should be his political epitaph. Their victory, while sweet, can't be fully enjoyed because it isn't fully deserved.
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But cultural sensitivity is one thing; principle is another. In their attempts to win rural voters, Democrats have already essentially abandoned gun control. That doesn't keep me up at night. But gay marriage is different. The fact that it is widely unpopular cannot obscure the fact that it is morally momentous and morally right...

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To: thegreatbeast

Don't pay any attention to Beinart. He's a flaming homo that thinks that brown is beautiful.


121 posted on 11/04/2004 5:53:33 PM PST by Elvis van Foster
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To: John Thornton

Being a conservative.


122 posted on 11/04/2004 6:07:33 PM PST by kalee
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To: thegreatbeast
Democrats have already essentially abandoned gun control.

The RATs have only abandoned gun control because they are out of power.

Never forget that Lurch himself wanted the AWB back.

If we are ever foolish enough to elect a RAT majority in either house, expect to lose your guns within a year. The only possible antidote is for W to get 4 SCOTUS appointments with the cojones to take on a 2A case.

123 posted on 11/04/2004 6:19:09 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: thegreatbeast
The other side may be euphoric, but the intensity of their happiness can't match the intensity of our despair.

Wanna bet, loser? Har-Har Hearty Har-HAR!

Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term.

I'm an honest Conservative...and I know, from balls to bones, that Bush earned this election in spades! After all the Leftist media sniping, all the 527 bullcrap, and the incessant lies from Kerry/Edwards, Bush earned this election hands-down. Deal with it.

They know he staked his presidency on a catastrophe, and that, by all rights, Iraq should be his political epitaph.

Iraq is more of a success than the Leftist media will admit. Fortunately, real Americans can appreciate that simple fact. It's the Fifth Column's useful idiots that think it's all going to hell.

Their victory, while sweet, can't be fully enjoyed because it isn't fully deserved.

My sweet aching foot it ain't deserved. It's richly deserved and a poke in the eye to all the Leftists who tried to bully, buy and intimidate Americans! We won, baby! And we won BIG!

But cultural sensitivity is one thing; principle is another.

Democrats know nothing of principle. They gladly put their own party ahead of national security. To hell with any claim Democrats may make on "principle"!

In their attempts to win rural voters, Democrats have already essentially abandoned gun control.

And rightly so. Gun control is the antithesis of American freedom. And to hell with anyone who says otherwise!

That doesn't keep me up at night. But gay marriage is different. The fact that it is widely unpopular cannot obscure the fact that it is morally momentous and morally right...

There's nothing moral about gay marriage. The gay "lifestyle" is the antithesis of marriage. And woe be unto anyone who tries to redefine a holy covenant to accommodate that perversion.

124 posted on 11/04/2004 6:30:25 PM PST by Prime Choice (The Democrats vowed 'no surrender.' It's time to make them wish they had.)
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To: Troublemaker

Yup. Gay.

125 posted on 11/04/2004 6:31:06 PM PST by Prime Choice (The Democrats vowed 'no surrender.' It's time to make them wish they had.)
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To: thegreatbeast

I like the way they tell me what I know GWB deserves. Clueless boobs.


126 posted on 11/04/2004 6:33:29 PM PST by Cooltouch
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To: All

What rock did this guy crawl out form under? These dems have no idea what real america is all about.
Go have a double latte at your fovorite vegitarian eatery ya weirdo!!


127 posted on 11/04/2004 6:37:53 PM PST by north_georgia_republican
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To: thegreatbeast

"Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term."

Oh, sh*t. I've got a colleague who I know is going to e-mail me this drivel tomorrow.


128 posted on 11/04/2004 6:55:23 PM PST by zook
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To: flada

Learn how to post a pic on the internet. SHEESH!!! What are you ....13? Many of us are locked into dialup connections. There is no alternative. Being conservative requires you to take your head out of your butt!


129 posted on 11/04/2004 6:57:11 PM PST by mercy
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To: Rocko

It's a quality versus quantity thing really.


130 posted on 11/04/2004 7:08:58 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: thegreatbeast

What rock did this idiot(Peter Beinart) climb out from?


131 posted on 11/04/2004 7:15:53 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: thegreatbeast

LOL What went wrong for who? Feeling pretty darn good over here ;)


132 posted on 11/04/2004 7:28:15 PM PST by Libertina (We praise You Lord, You have granted America a Christian leader!)
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To: Prime Choice

Gay, but not happy.


133 posted on 11/04/2004 7:34:08 PM PST by Rocko (Congratulations, President Bush!)
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To: Ed_in_NJ

I agree. But the fact that they still don't get it gives us some margin to maneuver. Now it's time to build on the leverage we've obtained.


134 posted on 11/04/2004 7:43:14 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (Kevin O'Malley)
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To: thegreatbeast
The other side may be euphoric, but the intensity of their happiness can't match the intensity of our despair.

Oh, yes it can. In fact, their despair is the icing on our happy cake! Woo hoo!

135 posted on 11/04/2004 8:34:01 PM PST by exDemMom (Victory! Victory! Victory!)
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To: thegreatbeast
Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term.

Um...I'm an honest conservative, and I'll honestly say that sentence is one of the most clueless, arrogant, stupid, out-of-touch piles of baloney ever written. This guy thinks we back people who we know are bad in the name of winning because that's what he and his ilk do.

136 posted on 11/04/2004 9:00:39 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Today the Donkeys need 10 billion gallons of bacitacrin and a whole lot of band-aids.)
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To: thegreatbeast

They might only figure it out when they end up as a third party and all the real fights are between the GOP and the Libertarians.


137 posted on 11/04/2004 9:06:09 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Today the Donkeys need 10 billion gallons of bacitacrin and a whole lot of band-aids.)
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To: thegreatbeast
"They know he staked his presidency on a catastrophe, and that, by all rights, Iraq should be his political epitaph"

Iraq is a win, and the only hope our enemies had there was defeatist traitors here at home snatching from our servicemen the victory their valor has already ensured. Now that commie Dems have been rebuked, they will achieve that victory in no uncertain terms. By the time of the by election, let alone the next presidential one, Iraq will be free sovereign and at peace with its neighbors, and a friend to its liberator, the US. And for his political courage in bringing that about, Bush will be remembered in history, long after this writer and all the Dems who nod at his words are nothing but dust.

138 posted on 11/04/2004 9:09:32 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Fenris6
Trust me, the whole civil unions thing is just as bad an idea as "marriage." Check the links below.

Results of gay marriage (and Vermont-style civil unions) in Scandinavia.

Results of gay marriage in Holland

Where it will lead sociologically.

More on Holland (and why contraception, secularization, etc. aren't the reason for the European problems)

Let's be nice, live-and-let-live libertarian types, just like in Canada.
(In Sweden and Canada gay activists got parts of the Bible made "illegal." Do we want to encourage them in the USA?)

Why libertarians should stand up against gay marriage.

Anything else is covered here.

139 posted on 11/04/2004 9:14:39 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Today the Donkeys need 10 billion gallons of bacitacrin and a whole lot of band-aids.)
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To: msjhall; bushisdamanin04
Another thing that went wrong was my column that I submitted the next day...

Pretty small price to pay for re-election, though!

140 posted on 11/04/2004 9:22:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Today the Donkeys need 10 billion gallons of bacitacrin and a whole lot of band-aids.)
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