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Voters complain of discrimination at polls
The Michigan Daily ^ | 11/04/04 | Michael Kan

Posted on 11/04/2004 2:45:42 PM PST by machman

DETROIT — In an election already marred by provisional ballot challenges, numerous reports of voter discrimination from nonpartisan poll monitoring groups underline the possible flaws in the nation’s voting systems.

Further impeding the voting process were accounts from student polling volunteers who said that ballot challengers were intimidating voters, signifying how fierce partisanship of the election permeated polling sites.

Racial slurs from election workers, missing bilingual ballots and unwarranted demands to check voter identification turned away Asian American voters across the nation, according to reports by the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund.

Learning from the lessons of the 2000 election, Margaret Fung, executive director of the legal fund, said the organization prepared for possible breakdowns at polling sites by taking measures such as contacting polling sites with records of voter discrimination to ensure they had language interpreters and provisional ballots on hand.

Despite their efforts, Fung said their exit polls of Asian Americans in eight states indicated widespread instances of voter discrimination, leaving many of the voters feeling disenfranchised. Refusals by election officials to provide provisional ballots and voters directed to the wrong polling locations were just some of the incidents that hampered the Asian American vote.

“There were racist remarks in New York City — poll workers were blaming them for holding up the lines. One of them said, ‘You Oriental guys are taking too long to vote,’ ” she said.

Although the legal fund continues to tally its exiting poll surveys and has no firm estimate for the number of incidents, Fung said repeated requests from poll workers to check identification hindered the high turnout of Asian American voters.

With their patience worn thin by the inadequacy of their voting site, many simply left without voting, she said.

“At this point, I don’t know if this had any effect on the election, but the process still needs to be fixed since it’s showing that it still can prevent people (from exercising) their vote,” Fung said.

A polling site at Cleveland Middle School in Detroit suffered some of the same difficulties, as the site had no translated ballots for Arabic speakers and lacked any interpreters. Election officer Susie Johnson said she could only resort to explaining slowly to non-English speaking voters how to vote.

“We just keep repeating what’s on the ballot until they understand,” she added.

Many non-English speaking voters managed to submit the ballot, though, with their family members functioning as interpreters.

But in other polling sites across Detroit, University student volunteers monitoring the polling sites said they not only encountered deficient polling sites, but also challengers from the Republican Party deliberately aiming to drive voters away through tactics of intimidation.

“It was quiet in some places, but in other places there was faulty election machinery and attempts by challengers to intimidate voters, and challengers at some points had to be physically removed by the police,” said LSA senior Ryan Bates, an electoral organizer with the grassroots community group Metropolitan Organizing Strategy Enabling Strength.

Of the Republican challengers at his polling location, Bates said all three were from Texas and intentionally hid their credentials in order to create the appearance that they were election officials. He added that they then intimidated voters by looming over them when casting ballots and interfering with their paper work, he added.

“At one point, there was a problem where a women’s ballot was spoiled, and she asked the challenger if she could have another one. And with a direct quote from the challenger, ‘This isn’t Afghanistan, you don’t get to vote twice here,’ ” Bates said.

Republicans have said their challengers monitor the elections to prevent voter fraud, and they sued Detroit officials Tuesday for allegedly barring some challengers from the polls.

Even with the end of election day, problems with the voting system still seem to be cropping up everywhere.

Starting her day of work in the morning at the U Club in the Union yesterday, LSA senior Rita Schiesser said her manager found an interesting surprise when he opened the restaurant.

“He found two metal boxes with ballots in them. … There were about 1,700 ballots in them,” she said.

The ballots were picked up by the Ann Arbor City Clerk’s office after her manager informed them, but Schiesser said she can only imagine how many ballot boxes are just waiting to be found.

The clerk’s office was unable to comment on the forgotten ballots.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: asianvote; democratlies; democratscheat; detroit; fraud; partyofthehindparts; rats; votefraud
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To: machman

I have an old Ace Reid COWPOKES cartoon from the 1960's.
A reporter is interviewing a "bracero" and the bracero says,

"Si Senior. there is discrimination at the polls. I voted five times and the man only paid me for three."

In the background is a fat politician handing out cash to potential voters in line.


21 posted on 11/04/2004 3:33:29 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The dirty dam yellow dog just got whipped and is slinking away with his tail 'tween his legs!!)
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To: machman
There they go again.
22 posted on 11/04/2004 3:38:38 PM PST by shiva
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To: machman

I worked at the polls on Tuesday. I suppose the Asian that took up about 40 minutes of our time felt intimidated too, no matter how much we tried to accomodate him. He lives in China, So. California and has a summer home here in No. California. He brought in a voter's guide from So. Calif. where he is evidently registered and demanded to vote here. We gave him a provisional ballot and a registration form. I suppose he will also pitch a fit when his ballot doesn't count. We had 4 or 5 difficult people that day. All were "immigrants" and simply couldn't understand the need to register to be able to vote.


23 posted on 11/04/2004 4:21:51 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: San Jacinto

" Cries of "Racism" pretty much trump anything in this society."

Yes, and it's past time we stop falling for that ploy.


24 posted on 11/04/2004 4:24:27 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: MplsSteve
I thought one had to demonstrate language proficiency before they can become a citizen?
25 posted on 11/04/2004 6:00:40 PM PST by W. W. SMITH
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To: MplsSteve

No different than the secretary of state's office. Can't read, can't write, here's your drivers license.


26 posted on 11/04/2004 6:01:20 PM PST by Westlander (BzzZZZ Pffft Gone)
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To: rocksblues

Kerry took Michigan, but not by much. The problem was that GOP Vote Watchers were watching the Detroiters cheat...they didn't like being caught.


27 posted on 11/04/2004 6:02:45 PM PST by madison10
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To: machman
Two words: Biometric implants.
28 posted on 11/04/2004 6:08:40 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: machman

Here we go again. I am Asian and I was never discriminated. The election went well for me. It was one of them electronic ballots.


29 posted on 11/04/2004 6:27:48 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: machman

This is rediculous, if you come here and refuse to learn english, don't hold up the poll lines.


30 posted on 11/04/2004 6:32:03 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: machman
If you're an informed voter with real opinions, you can vote. The name does not change.

If you can't tell the difference between John Kerry and George Bush on a ballot, then you have no business navigating the roads to the polling place.

31 posted on 11/04/2004 6:35:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: machman; dubyaismypresident
Funny.

The ONLY specific and credible (and ACTUAL) case of fraud in the whole article was buried IN THE LAST LINE of the LAST PARAGRAPH ....

And it was proof of probable fraud BY democrats in Michigan.

Everything else was alleged comments of alleged nothing!
32 posted on 11/04/2004 6:40:31 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: arjay

Then punch a hole in the picture ID when that ID is used to vote.

One punch, one picture, one vote.

By the way, record WHO gets mailed EACH absentee ballot, and compare that to the census and the IRS..


33 posted on 11/04/2004 6:43:29 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: machman
I'm calling Bullshit on this one.
34 posted on 11/04/2004 7:10:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("No time for losers, cause we are the champions...of the world!!!")
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To: Labyrinthos
If the law allows only citizens and naturalized citizens to vote and if the law requires people seeking to become naturalized citizens to have a basic understanding of English, thenn why we are handing out bilingual ballots of any kind.

I would imagine it's a generation chauvinistically raised in a virtually non English speaking culture.

35 posted on 11/04/2004 7:13:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
East Lansing has a lot of problems with it's City Government. Their elections division isn't one of them. It was smooth sailing for me as a poll challenger there.
36 posted on 11/04/2004 7:16:45 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("No time for losers, cause we are the champions...of the world!!!")
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To: machman

"An election marred by complaints" HUH?

Must have been in a different country. These rats just cannot stop their devisiveness. But this time it's not going to work! Nice what an extra 4 million in popular votes can do to warm up your day! :)


37 posted on 11/04/2004 7:20:53 PM PST by Libertina (We praise You Lord, You have granted America a Christian leader!)
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To: arjay
Let's make it easy. Make federal presidential election rules that everyone who votes must show picture ID. No exceptions!

That and making every voter dip his or her right thumb in permanent flourescent orange dye before exiting the polling place.

38 posted on 11/04/2004 7:28:36 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: machman
Starting her day of work in the morning at the U Club in the Union yesterday, LSA senior Rita Schiesser said her manager found an interesting surprise when he opened the restaurant. “He found two metal boxes with ballots in them. … There were about 1,700 ballots in them,” she said.

Its comforting to see that the RATs still remember the classics in vote fraud. "Landslide" Lyndon Johnson pulled this one back in 1948 to steal the governorship of Texas from Coke Stevenson, the Republican.

And I find it even odder that the manager of a restaurant would take the time to count every ballot in a box he happened across in his workplace. Otherwise, how would he know that there were 1700 ballots in the box?

39 posted on 11/04/2004 7:30:41 PM PST by asgardshill (Bad Liberal - No Kool Aid)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Good!


40 posted on 11/04/2004 8:54:41 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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