The joke's on the 'Bush is a moron' crew

The Oregonian ^ | November 4, 2004 | David Reinhard

[AmishDude]

What do you think of #27? I'm curious as to your perspectives.

[GeorgeW23225]

He may not drink to the excess of Teraaaazzzza, but he was shown MANY times during the campaign wth a bottle of beer in his hand. Don't get me wrong. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. My point is to show Teraaaaazzza to be either a liar, delusional, or both.

Come to think of it, I've been trying to explain why Teraaaazzzza "looks" the way she does. Originally, I thought she had a "mental" problem. Now I think it may be from excessive drinking.

Eiher way, the sKerry campaign was smart to keep her "off" the campaign trial in the final days. And America is lucky NOT to have her as First Lady.

[loftyheights]

In our parochial school, Bush received received 84%. Btw, these are smart kids who do not attend public school here in Louisiana. Think about it, smart kids voting for a man whom the media says is dumb. A staff writer for the local fish-wrap newspaper writes the following this morning on the editorial page: "Given Bush's unequal struggle with the English language and the vacant stare with which he greeted some of the questions..." All I can say to liberals is KEEP IT UP! The more you write and rant, the better it is for Bush.

[oyez]

I understand John Kerry mentioned, "I can't believe I loosing to this idiot." I guess his final word was "I can't believe I lost to this idiot." Denial is a river that runs through the Democratic Party.

[oyez]

I contend Kerry sent his errand boy out to make the "wait and see" announcement Tuesday night because he probably had too many Heineken's poured down him.

[AppyPappy]

He's so stupid, he scored higher on the IQ test than smart old John Kerry.

[TC Rider]

It must suck to get your a$$ kicked by a moron.

Two years ago we were seated on a train in the UK riding first class to Stoke-on-Trent. We shared our table with a well dressed gentleman who said he was a history instructor at some well known prep school.

He was a bonafide Bush basher wanting to put it to the brash Americans, but fearing for his physical safety he would phrase his comments thusly;

"Some say your President is a brash cowboy."

Get it? It's not his opinion but someone elses.

"Some say your President is a moron."

I asked if he agreed with a headline of the day that Blair was a lapdog to our President?

He agreed, then I asked him, "Does it bother 'some' that your Prime Minister is a lapdog to a moron?"

That was pretty much the end of the conversation.

[Arrowhead1952]

That file was renamed. See the original thread about this.

CNN/Netscape Call GWBush an "@$$hole" on their website!

[RedBloodedAmerican]

There are two separate photos they had different file names for. They (CNN/Netscape News) did it to two images at least.

[Max Combined]

"He agreed, then I asked him, "Does it bother 'some' that your Prime Minister is a lapdog to a moron?""

Touché! I wish I could have been there to see the expression on his face.

[lonestar]

Actually, it's backward.

But Bush got 65% of the vote--

[TC Rider]

My recollection is that he 'harrumped'.

[Max Combined]

"I work as a TA in a university and it was great to listen to some of my fellow grad students whine about Bush."

My daughter is a junior at Rice and a Bush supporter. I managed to talk her into voting early over at League City, as I had done earlier.

I asked her how her fellow students were taking the election and she said that it seemed like she was the only one happy. I told her not to bother trying to talk politics with them, since it is a waste of time and it will just make them mad at her. She agreed and also said that she was not as up on politics, since she spends most of her time working on her studies in Chemical Engineering and many of those at Rice seemed to have many facts on their side.

I quoted her the following, "A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion." by Sir Francis Bacon and told her that the same applied to politics and those who really know the score are Republicans.

[Michael81Dus]

LOL. Interesting view. Really. I never thought of this like you, and I don´t think that Schröder is my king. Ok, I am not letting him going away with his affairs (four times married) or that he´s trying to abolish our National Holiday (Day of German Unity). But for most this may be true. The British Queen just has left Germany and so many people cheered her - why? I´m glad we have a President who represents us, and a Chancellor who is responsible for the politics of his government. I will not thank Schröder for his 8 years, he consistently lied and brought down my country. He is no king, he is just a stupid white man.

And I am glad that Bush not only won, but that he won the popular vote. It was unbelievable how big the naive arrogance of the German media was. How can the Left even dare to criticize the American people for voting for Bush? It was the sovereign decision of you and not of the Europeans. How can they dare to blame it all on the Christians ("Male Christians were the decisive group that re-elected Bush")? What is bad in being Christian? What is bad in believing in wrong and right? What is bad in serving the country you have sworn to serve?

I think, AmishDude, that the Europeans in general (exceptions occur) want the US President to be the king of the western world - perfect and without a fault. They want him to care not only for Americas but also for their interests. They want a say in his decisions, but not to share the burden. In short, they want the US President to do all that what their own "leaders" are not capable to! Europe has no great leaders right now. All the guys called heads of governments are no great men, no outstanding persons. But President Bush has a vision - unlike the European leaders. The only "fault" of Bush is, that the European left (or let´s say 70% of Europe) does not share his vision.

However, it will be interesting times for us. Germanys President Köhler (CDU) has called for good relations with the USA, just like the CDU-chairwoman Merkel. Two years to go to see the three (Bush, Köhler and Merkel) walking through the Brandenburg Gate. :-)

Best wishes to you all,

Michael

[Army Air Corps]

Amen! Those of us in the History department who are well-versed in politics and political philosphy tend to be quite conservative. The folks who rely upon the LSM for news tend to be foaming-at-the-mouth left-wing whack jobs.

[RightWingAtheist]

Same here; wish I could mouth to some of them, but didn't want to lose any friends!

I also noticed that one of my undergrad students was wearing a large "Viva Bush!" button on election day. I complimented her on her courageous speech.

[RightWingAtheist]

Ah, but the smartest candidate doesn't need to remind people that he's smarter-because he and they know the truth *cough*Reagan

[AmishDude]

Thanks, Michael. I didn't mean to say that you thought of Schröder as a king or that any German consciously does.

What I meant was a mentality that views an elected leader as a sort of replacement for the king -- with all the qualities of a king, but having been selected by a vote. Actually, Germany may be a notable exception because the head of state is not the head of the government, thank you for reminding me.

My analysis is just some sort of view of the subconscious point of view of Europeans vs. Americans.

BTW, my colleague also expressed concern that America was being isolated in the world. Of course, America has always been isolated and Americans can't understand why cooperation is such a big deal. We are people who like to be left alone. We're happy to help when someone's in trouble but to us, cordial relations come from helping someone when they're in trouble and is not something that needs constant maintenance. If we don't know our neighbors, that's not such a bad thing.

Furthermore, Europe is isolated, too. Europeans just don't think so because Europe is so fractioned. Germans look to the French, Spanish look to Italians, Hungarians look to the Austrians. They don't take guidance from Africa or South America or Asia or even Canada.

[Atlantic Friend]

It's true that Europeans tend to give a free pass to their leaders for some things that would cause a major upheaval in the press and the public opinion in the United States.

I'm not sure it's because we think of a president's mistresses as some office perks, though. Our political class is further estranged from the common citizen than the US politicians are. First of all, they are a class. There's very little turnover, and even the worst defeat usually don't mean the end of the political career, as long as the loser still controls its power structure.

Lionel Jospin, Chirac's "socialist" opponent in 2002, was one of a very small number of European leaders that accept to step down and almost renounce to public life after a defeat. The only other example I can think of - because I don't know enough about neighboring countries' old leaders - is General de Gaulle, who stepped down as President when one of his referendums failed to obtain a majority.

A second reason is that people tend to shrug off what they see as minor quirks or long-forgotten sins and just want the leader to be good at leading the country. We certainly have grown cynical enough not to hope that our politicians (with striking exceptions such as Adenauer, de Gaulle, Churchill) can be our source of inspiration when it comes to moral rectitude.

Still, I don't totally agree with you when you say that the big difference between Americans and Europeans are that Americans don't really want intelligent presidents - if only because you don't have many examples of a dumb POTUS getting elected. What I see as a real difference is in you want a President who's totally accountable to you, throughout his mandate, to the point you can impeach or recall him whenever he ceases to inspire you. This is the feature I'd like to see here !

As for the "Bush is a moron" jokes I find them rather funny - in a generic way, they can turn as easily into Koffi Annan, Ariel Sharon, Michael Moore joke, depending on how you fell towards these people.

But a joke is not a political comment, and if the Democrats think this is political analysis at its finest, they'd better be used to get trounced in every election till the end of Time. They'd better find back the good old Occam's razor and ask themselves how a man they call a dullard can have beaten them not once, but twice, all the while expanding his popular power base and pursuing a very ambitious agenda.

[AmishDude]

Our political class is further estranged from the common citizen than the US politicians are.

Indeed. I would say that US politicians are something of a class, but there are positions for US politicians (lobbyist, lawyer) that they can take on by fading away. Daschle was defeated and his reward will be a huge increase in his salary (although his wife's will suffer) and a comfortable job.

I would also argue that de Gaulle was an exception because he wasn't wholly a part of the political class.

A second reason is that people tend to shrug off what they see as minor quirks or long-forgotten sins and just want the leader to be good at leading the country.

Something of the way people view a king. He's eccentric and ideosyncratic but that's fine. Many good royalty have had strange habits. Part of this view comes from the fact that royalty's habits have always been known or rumored. Private citizens are private. To hear that Prince Charles wants to be Camilla's tampon is strange. To hear it from your neighbor or Congressional representitive is most disturbing.

What I see as a real difference is in you want a President who's totally accountable to you, throughout his mandate, to the point you can impeach or recall him whenever he ceases to inspire you.

You're right. Although impeach and recall is largely a theoretical construction despite recent examples of Clinton and Gray Davis. Of course we did get rid of Daschle and Tom Foley, so there is hope.