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A Blue City (Disconsolate, Even) Bewildered by a Red America
NY Times ^ | 04 November 2004 | Joseph Berger

Posted on 11/03/2004 7:39:23 PM PST by Lorianne

triking a characteristic New York pose near Lincoln Center yesterday, Beverly Camhe clutched three morning newspapers to her chest while balancing a large latte and talked about how disconsolate she was to realize that not only had her candidate, John Kerry, lost but that she and her city were so out of step with the rest of the country.

"Do you know how I described New York to my European friends?" she said. "New York is an island off the coast of Europe."

Like Ms. Camhe, a film producer, three of every four voters in New York City gave Mr. Kerry their vote, a starkly different choice than the rest of the nation. So they awoke yesterday with something of a woozy existential hangover and had to confront once again how much of a 51st State they are, different in their sensibilities, lifestyles and polyglot texture from most of America. The election seemed to reverse the perspective of the famous Saul Steinberg cartoon, with much of the land mass of America now in the foreground and New York a tiny, distant and irrelevant dot.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: kerry; nyc
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To: NZerFromHK
They will also be shocked when finding out non-US Western societies tend to have a far more right-wing stance on race

I've considered that much of the worldwide animus against the American right is because, overseas, the "right" is so often associated with racist policies.

In America, though, nothing could be further from the truth. Still, we have the left in America making the same kind of charges. Perhaps, because their own worldview is so, ah, "European"...

161 posted on 11/04/2004 9:45:30 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Lancey Howard

:) LOL


162 posted on 11/04/2004 9:56:39 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lancey Howard

:) LOL


163 posted on 11/04/2004 9:56:46 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
...Beverly Camhe clutched three morning newspapers to her chest while balancing a large latte...

Ms. Beverly and her cohorts in New York may not get much about Republican red, but she should at least get this much: If it weren't for our strong President and the equally strong backing we, his people, gave him, Ms. Beverly might be dodging frequent, if not daily terrorist bombs.

The vast majority of the men and women serving overseas in harms way to protect Ms. Beverly and her latte-drinking peers support this President. And another thing Ms. Beverly should note: they bleed red. Ms. Beverly hasn't seen another plane fly into a NYC skyscraper in over three years thanks to GWB and our men and women in uniform.

164 posted on 11/04/2004 10:02:44 AM PST by Wolfstar (Tomorrow the United States of America hangs in the balance. Vote accordingly.)
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To: WifeMotherDaughterSister

LOL BTTT

Pharmacies must be working overtime...


165 posted on 11/04/2004 10:08:42 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (Tag Line Conservationist Week)
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To: All

Can someone post that picture of the United States of Texas and Jesusland. I can't find it.


166 posted on 11/04/2004 10:10:26 AM PST by YoungHickey
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To: TheLurkerX

Does Wyoming contribute as much to the nation as New York, California or Texas?


167 posted on 11/04/2004 3:49:18 PM PST by Melas
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To: MadAnthony1776

Kitty Genovese


168 posted on 11/04/2004 3:55:56 PM PST by Melas
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To: joeystoy
It's embarrassing that New Yorkers who have never traveled beyond their narrow-minded province deride and disparage fellow Americans they've never met and will never understand.

Don't be embarrassed. It's a universal failing. You'll find it in every small town, medium sized city, and burgenoning metropolis in America. Misconceptions abound about almost every part of the country. Except for California. It's all true. ;)

169 posted on 11/04/2004 3:58:25 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

I'm saddened by what I feel is the obtuseness and shortsightedness of a good part of the country - the heartland," Dr. Joseph said. "This kind of redneck, shoot-from-the-hip mentality and a very concrete interpretation of religion is prevalent in Bush country - in the heartland."

"New Yorkers are more sophisticated and at a level of consciousness where we realize we have to think of globalization, of one mankind, that what's going to injure masses of people is not good for us," he said.




Typical Liberal Elitist BS!


170 posted on 11/04/2004 3:59:38 PM PST by GRRRRR (This President, THIS TIME! Ron Silver, RNC Convention Speech)
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To: GRRRRR

The guy is wrong, and we know he's wrong. However, there are pleny of stereotypes about urban dwellers that aren't true as well. I've met lots of people in the "heartland" who're just convinced that everyone in the cities is a criminal idiot.


171 posted on 11/04/2004 4:08:32 PM PST by Melas
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To: najida

I like it!


172 posted on 11/04/2004 4:20:09 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: merry10
These people make me want to barf. Who do they think they are...because they live in NYC that they are SMARTER than a midwesterner? That a midwesterner believes everything someone tells them? What condescending snobs.

From my experience as a student from Kansas City going to school on Long Island (SUNY @ Stony Brook), Yes, they DO think that they're smarter than us. The certainly believe that they're better than us!

Mark

173 posted on 11/04/2004 4:23:20 PM PST by MarkL (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
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To: okie01

"None of the people who are likely to be hit by a terrorist attack voted for Bush."

What a fool! What does he think happened in Oklahoma City? Just because it was supposedly home grown terrorists doesn't make it any less terrorism! Terrorists can hit at any time and anywhere, that's why it is called terrorism Zito! By the way Oklahoma is a VERY RED state.


174 posted on 11/04/2004 4:44:43 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

LOL. I remember when FEAR did that on SNL.


175 posted on 11/04/2004 5:06:53 PM PST by Clemenza (AKA The Avenging Disco Godfather)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Dick Manitoba: New York, New York:

Smoking marijuana

Watching channel five

Got to get my strength up

In this struggle to survive

Everyone's an asshole

Everyone's a creep

I look out my window

And there's garbage in the streets

I live in the city

I breathe dirty air

I ride trains with b-boys

junkies, queens and squares

Everybody's hungry

I don't know what to do

I used to live on pizza

Now I live on Chinese food

I can't stand my neighbors

Screaming all the time

If I wasn't blasting Sister Ray

I could lose my mind

I live in the city

I breathe dirty air

I ride trains with b-boys

junkies, queens and squares

Safely someone's smiling

The fat man waits his turn

Soon he'll count his money

While the South Bronx slowly burns!

Get out for the children

Get your ass and run

Get out of this stinkin mess

To a safe suburban slum

I live in the city

I breathe dirty air

I ride trains with b-boys

junkies, queens and squares!

New York, New York

New York, New York

New York, New York

ARE YOU TAWKIN' TO ME!!!

176 posted on 11/04/2004 5:12:50 PM PST by Clemenza (AKA The Avenging Disco Godfather)
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To: Dont Mention the War

SHhhhhh, people will know. Course, beans and rice will get old real quick.


177 posted on 11/04/2004 9:33:18 PM PST by TheLurkerX (Kerry has left the building.)
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To: Bandaneira

When I was little, I always wondered why they didn't look like the little family in the ad. :)


178 posted on 11/04/2004 9:35:24 PM PST by TheLurkerX (Kerry has left the building.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

LOL...good one :)


179 posted on 11/04/2004 9:38:49 PM PST by CaraM
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To: Clemenza
Ahh, the Dictators! Now that's rock 'n roll!
180 posted on 11/05/2004 4:38:52 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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