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To: HiTech RedNeck

Convergent evolution of the eye is a religious concept. Out of nothing the vertebrate eye is supposed to have developed completely separate from the squid and octopus which they (Darwinians) say developed from different phylogenetic lineages. Just got lucky I guess. When they say "If you put a chimpanzee in from of an IBM selectric typewriter and he struck 60 elements per minute,given enough time he would exactly duplicate the exact works of Shakespeare." That is an article of faith any way you slice it. Call it science if you like, but it aint.


63 posted on 11/07/2004 11:21:17 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Convergent evolution of the eye is a religious concept.

So therefore it's not true? You anti-evolutionists kill me. You insult certain aspects of science by calling it what you base your beliefs on. You make no sense.
77 posted on 11/07/2004 12:39:19 PM PST by whattajoke (.)(.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
"If you put a chimpanzee in from of an IBM selectric typewriter

Or a forged TANG document.

85 posted on 11/07/2004 5:20:12 PM PST by Calusa (Bush cooked Kerry's Goose!)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Convergent evolution of the eye is a religious concept.

You clearly don't understand the meaning of either term...

Out of nothing the vertebrate eye is supposed to have developed completely separate from the squid and octopus which they (Darwinians) say developed from different phylogenetic lineages.

Incorrect -- from what box of Cracker Jacks did you gain your "science" education? Or was it from a creationist screed, which is equally unreliable?

The vertebrate eye did not develop "out of nothing", its development was separate but not "completely separate" from that of the cephalopod eye, and the term "different phylogenetic lineages" is a relative term, which you are incorrectly using as an absolute -- go back far enough and we most certainly *are* in the same phylogenetic lineage as the invertebrates.

Just got lucky I guess.

Just your straw man I guess.

When they say "If you put a chimpanzee in from of an IBM selectric typewriter and he struck 60 elements per minute,given enough time he would exactly duplicate the exact works of Shakespeare." That is an article of faith any way you slice it.

No, that's mathematics, and it's provably true. But your example has nothing to do with evolution, convergent or otherwise, since evolution does not proceed via unaided randomness.

Is your non sequitur due to ignorance, or disingenuousness?

Call it science if you like, but it aint.

What you're putting into your posts certainly "ain't", that's for sure. If you want to discuss what science *actually* holds, instead of your cartoon version of it, feel free to start at any time.

194 posted on 11/08/2004 10:37:26 PM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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