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Dow 40,000, Nasdaq 20,000 by 2009; Harry Dent predicts a 'New Millionaire Economy'
CBS MarketWatch.com ^ | 11/03/2004 | Paul B. Farrell

Posted on 11/03/2004 4:12:45 PM PST by SierraWasp

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To: The_Republican

Bob Brinker believes it's a cyclical bull also, and he's been dead-on calling the trends. I've noticed the market has been on a cautious upswing for the past few weeks, which makes me think traders had a good idea Dubya would win, but there was a possibility of the terror world pulling a Spain on us. Actually, I'm a bit surprised they didn't get something off to try to influence the election. Anyway, they ain't all that smart about Americans, or they wouldn't have given the impression they endorsed Kerry. If they had shut up, maybe the election would have been a lot closer than it was.


21 posted on 11/03/2004 4:57:49 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Dog Gone; Grampa Dave
I like to keep an eye on two indicators. One is this and the other is Trim Tabs reports on how money is moving in and out of cash (money market funds), to and from stock, or bond funds.

Harry Dent is a student of historical cycles, demographics and especially human nature! Like politics is the art of the possible, I like Harry because he looks for the upper limits possible in macro-economics.

The "establishment" always relies on "conventional wisdom" and it just thrills me when the "establishment's" sclerotic thinking gets blown away, just like what is happening with the Dan Rathers of the MSM, right now!!!

22 posted on 11/03/2004 5:20:48 PM PST by SierraWasp (Discredited Democrats... Concede already!!! Discredited MSM... Project already!!! New Media Rules!!!)
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To: freebilly

Yep, Dent has been uncannily accurate in the past. His book The Great Boom Ahead predicted the 1990's to a tee. I urge everyone to read his latest book. Most won't bother.

Unfortunately, if he's right, it means the Republicans will own the government until 2012, after which this country will most certainly go not-so-gradually socialist. The GOP will be blamed for an economic decline which was not of their making and no one could avoid.


23 posted on 11/03/2004 5:21:32 PM PST by showpromid (Victory 2004!!!!)
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To: showpromid
it means the Republicans will own the government until 2012, after which this country will most certainly go not-so-gradually socialist. The GOP will be blamed for an economic decline which was not of their making and no one could avoid.

White House: Debt Ceiling Must Be Raised
Foreigners own half US debt, tipping point unclear

24 posted on 11/03/2004 5:26:14 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: SierraWasp
"It's all about confidence and the power of positive thinking. That's what I so despise about Dems and EnvironMentalists!"

EXACTLY! John Edwards based his whole candidacy on people starving in America. First of all, it ain't happenin'. Secondly, a case can be made that............NOTHING IS WRONG! Hey democRATS, hear that? Nothing is wrong. You don't have to go out and "fight" for people. Everybody is ok, OK? Leave us alone, keep your lawyers in lower Manhattan where they belong. We want to engage in commerce and make money with you. But leave us alone otherwise.

IMHO there just might not be anything wrong. And if there is, could the blame be placed on poor individual choices? What a radical concept.

25 posted on 11/03/2004 7:42:43 PM PST by groanup
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To: SierraWasp

If this is true, the 'Rats are history. The Republicans will be in control for a generation and the Libertarians will be the new "second" party.


26 posted on 11/03/2004 7:47:09 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: SierraWasp

I'm not buying Harry Dent's pipe dreams again. He was so wrong about the bubble, it's amazing he would ever show his face again.

That being said, yes, I believe the market will continue its decades-long upward trend, and I am fully participating for the loooong run. I'm just going to be well diversified, and I'm going to ignore pseudo-experts like Dent.


27 posted on 11/03/2004 8:24:02 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots." -- Ulysses S. Grant (a Republican))
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To: SierraWasp; Willie Green; ninenot

This scenario timeline go well with my theory of hyper inflation to pay/fund the national debt, and fund the empty social security 'lock box' commitments which will start coming due in about 2008.

The DOW going to 40,000 would be about right, for a total inflation rate of 400%, and all the free traitors who wish to foist our debt 'paper' and dollars on foreigners and others, to support our enormous trade and monetary deficits.

Yep, it's all lining up. $8/gallon gasoline, 40k DOW, $400k houses, $80k cars. Yup... it's all lining up.


28 posted on 11/03/2004 8:57:48 PM PST by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: groanup; Carry_Okie; Amerigomag; NormsRevenge; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Seadog Bytes; ...
"Leave us alone"

That's just it! They never will! The preachy, teachy bastards are just obsessed with their "vision" of "social justice" and GovernMentalism that they pound in everyone's face with such perpetual evangelistic missionary zeal that they're worse than a newly converted Christian who was just baptized!!!

They've been losing elections because they are threatening. They somehow suceed in making Conservatives and Christians be perceived as threatening to hide their own threatening intensity in a shroud of pseudo populism or do-gooderism. They are fatiguing to the max!!!

Elliot Spitzer is a great current example of the lawyers of which you speak, that have a detrimental impact on commerce far beyond the realm of lower Manhattan. Rudy Juliannie was a good AG and he didn't shotgun aspersions and malicious, selective prosecutions at entire industries like Spitzer is doing at the insurance industry!

Democrats like Spitzer just HATE the insurance industry for the social good it does as private sector entities because they think this should be done only through the public sector as the only trustworthy element of society! That's pure unadulterated crappola and Socialism!!!

Without the parasitic burden of extreme GovernMental/EnvironMental Socialism we have been enduring since the FDR administration, the US would be light-years ahead of where it is today! IMO!!!

29 posted on 11/03/2004 9:04:56 PM PST by SierraWasp (Discredited Democrats... Concede already!!! Discredited MSM... Project already!!! New Media Rules!!!)
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To: Willie Green; The_Republican

I think the only thing that can be done is convincing people to get out of and stay out of debt. A mortgage is not supposed to be comfortable or a source of income.


30 posted on 11/04/2004 2:13:34 AM PST by Baby Bear (Conserve and grow your money...gain power in return.)
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To: SierraWasp

Elliot Spitzer is out of control. Notice how all those settlements collectively amounted to over a billion? Sounds huge. Actually it was about one or two months revenue per firm. But Spitzer got his headline.


31 posted on 11/04/2004 5:34:06 AM PST by groanup
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To: SierraWasp

Dent has indeed been uncannily accurate. Even so, he's a trend follower.

But this is roughly a 31% componded annual rate of return. While not impossible, extremely unlikely.

Simple reversion to the mean beginning at the end of the last bull run (a 10 percent return beginning January 1 2000 through December 31 2009) suggests a Dow 28,000. The problem here is that the 10 year number on the S&P 500, (neither a foolish price weighted index not a tech heavy abomination) is better than 12% as of 12/31/05. Reversion to the mean employing that information suggests dramatic underperformance for stocks.

If I had a five year time horizon, I would avoid aggressively investing in stocks, much less in aggressive stocks.

Make sure you have 10 years. 20 is much better. And count on our corporations to innovate, invent and lead the way through!

The good news is that economists don't manage money.

Yours in portfolio management,

Sentinel


32 posted on 02/01/2005 9:48:06 AM PST by Plymouth Sentinel
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To: Plymouth Sentinel; wagglebee; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; Southack; Steven W.; BOBTHENAILER
"Harry Dent predicts a 'New Millionaire Economy'"

Of course he's a "trend follower!" How else does anyone figure anything out about the future? If it' weren't for time, everything would happen all at once!!!

I like Harry and George! One predicts the "new Millionaire Economy," and the other predicts the "new Ownership Society!" God Speed, Harry & George!!!

Good grief, Sentinel of Plymouth, you snagged this thead from last november? Nice to know it's not really a "dead thread!" (grin)

33 posted on 02/01/2005 10:00:05 AM PST by SierraWasp (al-Najr, 38, after casting a ballot for the first time in his life. "I get to say I'm human now.")
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To: SierraWasp
"The Next Great Bubble Boom: How to Profit from the Greatest Boom in History: 2005-2009."

I'll put this on my reading list, I'm still working on "The Crash of 1995".

34 posted on 02/01/2005 10:01:34 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Put on your red shoes and dance the blues.)
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To: SierraWasp

Wow! With those numbers I could retire very early. (I was targeting 2017 or so.) Will earnings really increase enough to sustain that valuation? That suggests we keep economic growth above the 3 to 4 percent range for four years consecutive and that interest rates remain very low. And, since the exchanges usually value the future of a stock, it also suggests that such a situation exists for as far as the eye can see.


35 posted on 02/01/2005 10:05:31 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye Shall Find)
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To: SierraWasp

Someone was saying several years ago that the real estate market strips money from the stock market and vice-versa.

According to him, if the stock market gets pumped up, the dollars are coming from a real estate price collapse.

Make of it what you will...


36 posted on 02/01/2005 10:08:14 AM PST by RobRoy (I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and stupid.)
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To: XBob

Yep, that's about it. If the Dow is at 40,000, milk will be $15.00 a gallon and bread will be $12.00 a loaf.


37 posted on 02/01/2005 10:12:01 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: SierraWasp

Go DOW 40,000.

Invest heavily in Tech!

Have your stop-loss orders set.

Optimist that I am.


38 posted on 02/01/2005 10:12:08 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: roaddog727; Plymouth Sentinel
Them "stop-loss orders" have got a risk to 'em, also. What if they "go-off" just before a major bull market rally? That's usually my luck! I'ma a buy and holder till I see big trends or freaky events like the big bear of 2000 and/or a terror attack! Even then I like to switch to cash only till I see an upward trend!! Even then, life's a constant risk, thank goodness. Without it, there'd be no rewards possible!!!

Oh... I still shy away from tech/NASDAQ stuff for a little longer. There sure is trillions of tons of cash still stashed on the sidelines that could make for a "secular bull" that I don't wanna miss, however. So be careful out there... will ya???

39 posted on 02/01/2005 12:19:38 PM PST by SierraWasp (al-Najr, 38, after casting a ballot for the first time in his life. "I get to say I'm human now.")
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To: SierraWasp

"So be careful out there... will ya???"

No doubt.


40 posted on 02/01/2005 12:21:39 PM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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