Posted on 11/03/2004 8:24:39 AM PST by Always Right
My history books said the south lost the Civil War, but apparently that was just a battle. The south lost the battle of 1861-1865, but now are winning the war.
Excuse the map, I could not find one that had all the states colored in.
A specious claim based on your misinterpretation. I merely compared professional soldiers who were posted in the West, to the non-professional soldiers who replaced them. And at the battles of Valverde and Glorieta Pass, the Union regular army soldiers were in the minority.
These are simple concepts, and are not contestable, but by then densest of intellects. So you remain wrong on every point you have attempted to make, and your Clintonian attempts at parsing the issue makes you appear even more ridiculous.
As is you.
A legend in your own mind, I see.
Or I could just call you a liberal. That seems to be your "nanny nanny boo boo" of choice.
Huh? I have no doubt that Mrs. Grant could travel without General Grant. After all, she made a number of visits to Grant in the field during the war. But are you suggesting she traveled to at the close of the war without him? Why? She had no family there, no friends. What would bring her to Richmond without Grant, and were is the evidence that Grant went to Richmond at the close of the war?
It's not my fault that you quote the liberal agenda. Why do you insist on blaming me for your failings? Could it be that you really are... well... you know.
You're a buffoon and a bigot! Please avoid lecturing me on American history because it is tiresome in the extreme. And try reading my post. First, it doesn't say which Blue State I am from or where I went to school. Any intelligent reader can infer my political leaning - very conservative on virtually every issue, by the way. It also pays my respects and gives thanks for the fact there are more right-thinking people in the southern area of our country than in my area. It also says that comments such as those made by "Always Right" convey the sense (even to THOSE OF US who are to the right of 99.99% of the people in this country) that the Civil War was nothing but ignorant yankees trying to beat-up on Southerners. The reasons behind the Civil War were complex and had much to do with economics, as well as states rights. But the over-riding reason dealt with the slave issue. To pretend otherwise makes one look foolish. I believe that fighting to free human beings from those who would enslave them is never wrong. Or do you believe that there are times that it is wrong?
Finally, stop with the "Yankee vs South" crap. I served in the USAF with wonderful people from every state as well as with jerks from every state. Your comments about Yankees is on a level with the leftists' attitude toward us Christians.
Grow up and welcome to the 21st century
Not believing the southern myths concerning the Civil War makes me a liberal? Well, I suppose that I sholdn't be surprised that you stumble into that conclusion, considering your other posts.
Although fun to argue with, these folks are hopeless on these issues. They have been infected with by a large dose of political correctness and indoctrinated into the religion of northern infallibility.
Deceptive people such as yourself usually don't last long here, though there are some exceptions. We'll wait and see how you do, but it won't change who you are.
As you know, I didn't base by statement about where you are posting from on the drivel in your post. I based it on the fact that your profile page had the Washington State flag, which you have now removed.
You're getting a real good start here by displaying your bigotry, and then accusing me of being the bigot. Liars and liberals are not welcome here. If you intend to stay, you'll have to cover your lies and liberalism better than that.
There is a difference between insults and respect. I suggest you learn the difference, and at least make some minimal attempt at mimicking respect.
I will continue to discuss the North vs. South, with or without your permission. You are discussing it, yet you want everyone who tells the truth to shut up about it. Why should we leave the discussion to ignorant bigoted hotheads?
Accepting the liberal agenda as proof that the truth is actually Southern myth is what makes you a liberal. I didn't cause it, so please quit blaming me. That's the first step toward shedding your liberal leanings. Once you accept the fact that it's not my fault you believe everything the liberals have told you about the South, you can start working on finding out the truth behind their lies. Until you accept responsibility for your own education, you cannot learn.
Julia Grant's autobiography wasn't published until 1975. It is based on the beginnings of an autobiography she started after Grant died, most of which she had to dictate when her vision failed her. These were edited and published 73 years after she died. The biography does state that Mrs. Grant's slaves were held for the duration of the war, but the laws of the time, the records of Missouri, and the writings of Grant himself make it clear that the biography is mistaken.
The only reason the South integrated, was because that JERK, LBJ, rammed it down our throats......
Please don't tell me you believe that propaganda about the war being fought over SLAVERY!? Jesus...what do they teach in schools these days!
So anyone who does not agree with you concerning the Civil War is a liberal? Well that's a convenient definition. I need to swallow the southern line in it's entirity or else I'm doomed to liberalism. I can't rely on evidence, I must rely on myth. I'm not sure I can do that.
Are you expecting an apology for that?
The Wlat Brigade has another member now it seems...:)
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