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It's Official - The South Won the Civil War!
11-3-04 | Always Right

Posted on 11/03/2004 8:24:39 AM PST by Always Right

My history books said the south lost the Civil War, but apparently that was just a battle. The south lost the battle of 1861-1865, but now are winning the war.

Excuse the map, I could not find one that had all the states colored in.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushcountry; bushvictory; civilwar; dixie; election; kerry; kerryconcession; southernvote
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To: Non-Sequitur; TexConfederate1861
I wish we had a conservative in the White House, but that ain't going to happen. I'd be happy with a Reagan Republican in the White House, one who believed in fiscal responsiblity and a smaller and less intrusive government, but that ain't gonna happen either.

Sadly true, but when options are limited, a s**t sandwich is better than a bullet to the head. I don't think that Bush's tendencies for give-aways can be blamed on the South, nor do I think they can be blamed on the war. Handouts appeal to urban voters, to rural voters, to white voters, to black voters, to all voters, and that's what it takes to get into office. It seems like a second-term president really has the option to can it all and risk impeachment in pursuit of a truly conservative agenda though.

But it's not gonna happen.

221 posted on 11/05/2004 9:28:41 AM PST by Gianni
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To: GOPcapitalist
"What was Canby, capitan? A federal officer. What do federal officers command? Federal troops. When a state or territory raises a volunteer company explicitly for service under a federal commander they too become federal troops, and that is what the Colorado group you mention was."

That is just about as sorry a mealy-mouthed excuse of a post as you have ever made! Let's review what you said in your post #149:

GOPc - "The Texans never even met the californy militia save for a single skirmish outside of Tuscon. They retreated after a couple months of fighting with the federal regulars who had been out their in frontier garrisons all along."

You contend that "federal regulars" were the reason that the Texans were routed. I pointed out that the "regulars" were relatively few compared to the volunteers and militia. Canby commanded all of them, but that does not make them all "regulars." Many of the federal regulars, IIRC, were commanded by Gabriel Paul, who later was severely wounded on the first day of Gettysburg.

New Mexico did provided both volunteers and militia. Colorado did as well. But all of these troops were irregulars with neither the training or the arms as the regulars. It is not simply a "semantic" distinction.

You are a person who willfully distorts any comment. That is not going to help you when you assume a professional career.

222 posted on 11/05/2004 9:43:17 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Non-Sequitur
That will depend on how many new entitlements he tries to implement in his second term, and how many states rights he wants to trash.

...which could also determine whether or not he's a Lincoln wannabe, given that Lincoln did all those things as well

223 posted on 11/05/2004 9:54:20 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: Gianni; capitan_refugio
Oh, they happened to be sure. He also quoted the dissent in Ex Parte Bollman and tried to pass it off as the ruling. A few weeks later he did the same thing in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld.

I think he finally retracted the second one but I don't recall him ever addressing the first. From his behavior two conclusions are possible - he is either amazingly inept when it comes to reading and faithfully presenting court decisions to the degree that he goes out searching for the ruling and virtually every time stumbles onto some significantly more obscure dissent or trial material from the opposition -OR- he is simply a filthy liar. Either way, I'll let him pick what person he wants to be today: the filthy liar or capitan_el_stupido

224 posted on 11/05/2004 10:03:51 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: Protagoras
I think I'll copy it with your permission.

Have at it

225 posted on 11/05/2004 10:05:25 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
"... he is simply a filthy liar. Either way, I'll let him pick what person he wants to be today: the filthy liar or capitan_el_stupido."

You're losing, and you're losing it. Your invective gives you away as the intellectual lightweight you are.

226 posted on 11/05/2004 10:08:05 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
I pointed out that the "regulars" were relatively few compared to the volunteers and militia.

There you go playing fast and loose with the words again. You did not present them as volunteer units, which become a form of REGULARS upon joining into the federal army. Your post focused on militias specifically and even went so far as to change the name designation of a volunteer unit to a militia unit despite the absence of the latter from any historical record.

Last I checked, BTW, it was standard operation to organize volunteer companies under a federal officer structure, arm them from the regular army's arsenals, and train them in the military command of that army. You've provided no reason to believe that this would not have been the case with the colorado volunteers that you dishonestly attempted to pass off as simple militiamen.

227 posted on 11/05/2004 10:11:04 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: capitan_refugio
You're losing, and you're losing it.

No, capitan. It's a simple matter of logical certainty. The fact is certain that you passed off extraneous material as the decision in several different court cases. Their are only two possible explanations for this action: ineptness in reading court decisions or willful deceit. One might not be the case, but if it is not the other necessarily is as there is no other explanation. So the question is did you err by accident or did you intentionally attempt to pass off false material? If you erred by accident, given the frequency and repeated exercise of that particular form of error you may be categorized as inept. If you intentionally posted false material then you practiced deception, thus making you a filthy liar. Again, the choice of which explanation you'd like to accept is yours. But it's gotta be one or the other.

228 posted on 11/05/2004 10:15:39 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
...which could also determine whether or not he's a Lincoln wannabe, given that Lincoln did all those things as well

So you say. But I think Bush is already head and shoulders above almost every other Republican president in that regard.

229 posted on 11/05/2004 10:15:41 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Don't put words in my mouth. If you're incapable of addressing what I said, just say so.


230 posted on 11/05/2004 10:15:59 AM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb
Don't put words in my mouth. If you're incapable of addressing what I said, just say so.

And just how did I put words in your mouth?

231 posted on 11/05/2004 10:19:23 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

If you're incapable of reading your own reply, I'm not sure it would do any good for me to repeat it.


232 posted on 11/05/2004 10:20:46 AM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb
If you're incapable of reading your own reply, I'm not sure it would do any good for me to repeat it.

Don't know, huh?

233 posted on 11/05/2004 10:23:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: BykrBayb
Don't put words in my mouth. If you're incapable of addressing what I said, just say so.

He has that incapability though he'll never admit it. Non-Seq reminds me of Ben Stiller's character in Dodgeball. He constantly finds himself on the losing side of an argument but his incessantly combative nature induces him to continue that argument long past the point of any meaningful contribution he could make (and those are few and far between to begin with). So he turns to smarmy yet utterly stupid, hollow, and meaningless responses just for the sake of posting something in response.

234 posted on 11/05/2004 10:23:21 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
So he turns to smarmy yet utterly stupid, hollow, and meaningless responses just for the sake of posting something in response.

I learned that from the master.

235 posted on 11/05/2004 10:24:29 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Actually, I think your lamentations over Bush retaining the presidency belong on DU.


236 posted on 11/05/2004 10:24:52 AM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I learned that from the master.

Really? So how is Wlat doing these days? Is he stable?

237 posted on 11/05/2004 10:25:26 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: ER_in_OC,CA

I'm having a hard time too. How can on compare slavery and the wealth begotten from slavery to today? It's a bit of an insult to the progress we've made.


238 posted on 11/05/2004 10:26:34 AM PST by ruthles
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To: Non-Sequitur

ROFLMAO!!! That's funny! You defending states' rights. Bwahahhaaa!!!!


239 posted on 11/05/2004 10:27:00 AM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: capitan_refugio
If you can point to the specific post you have problem with, I will review it.

nolu chan has linked you to it a bout a hundred times, but here it is again.

240 posted on 11/05/2004 10:27:00 AM PST by Gianni
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