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Washington State Governor's Race tied at 49% - Libertarian candidate taking 2% (!%%!!#^)
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Posted on 11/03/2004 1:42:42 AM PST by ambrose

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To: CWOJackson
["By running candidates who favor smaller government?"]

In case you failed to read the LP's own press release,

Oh, I read it. And unlike you, I understood it.

they were running candidates that they had no intention of winning...but only to act as spoilers to throw the race to the liberals.

That's a short-term goal. You seem incapable of understanding how this can be a viable sacrifice in order to achieve a long-term goal. Again, how about a nice game of chess, fifty bucks a game?

That doesn't sound like people who REALLY care a bit about smaller government.

See above.

For all your vicious attacks on libertarian candidates, the irony is that the "vermin" you despise can run rings around you when it comes to understanding political strategy. The further irony is that you'll probably never realize it even when it's been spelled out for you.

81 posted on 11/03/2004 2:20:17 AM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Djarum
"I imagine they'd vote for Democrats if they wanted them to win."

You don't understand the LP mindset. As one of them said already, sometimes you have to teach the GOP a lesson. They don't seem to understand that when they help elect liberal Democrats everyone suffers...even them. They just aren't aware of it.

82 posted on 11/03/2004 2:20:32 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Djarum
I imagine they'd vote for Democrats if they wanted them to win.

Shhhh, don't try logic, you'll just confuse him.

83 posted on 11/03/2004 2:20:50 AM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Truthsearcher
I am getting a little excited here. I would sure like washington state to do something positive!

I'm going to bed.

84 posted on 11/03/2004 2:20:51 AM PST by right way right
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To: Djarum
I imagine they'd vote for Democrats if they wanted them to win.

Ding! A flash of insight.

85 posted on 11/03/2004 2:21:23 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Ichneumon

I understand it very well, and the public understands it very well. You can spin it all you want and it won't change a thing.


86 posted on 11/03/2004 2:21:33 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Well yes, it's like the old fashioned parental admonition before the spanking, "this hurts me more than it hurts you." BUT, the end result is an improvement in the situation.


87 posted on 11/03/2004 2:22:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: AmishDude

You have to remember, the LP isn't about electing anyone...it's about playing spoiler. It says a lot when that is your political goal.


88 posted on 11/03/2004 2:22:27 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

You know, I'm starting to think you just may not be capable of understanding the point. Is this one of those deals where we're just wasting time annoying the pig?


89 posted on 11/03/2004 2:22:53 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Typical LP thinking. Higher taxes, loosing the war on terror, liberals courts...they hurt everyone equally. At least those cognizant enough to understand that simple fact.


90 posted on 11/03/2004 2:23:41 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Truthsearcher

I hope he pulls it out....what a breath of fresh air to have a Republican governor for a change.....


91 posted on 11/03/2004 2:23:52 AM PST by cherry
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To: Hank Rearden

I understand the point very well.


92 posted on 11/03/2004 2:24:08 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: HiTech RedNeck

First of all, if you say "state" or "statist" one more time, there will be nobody left on this board who does not think you are a crank.

Second, anyone voting for an LP candidate is either a malcontent looking for any third party vote or an unappeasable who will manufacture any reason to avoid voting Republican. I like my tagline.

If these voters will "go" to the LP for no specific reason, every rational political consultant will say "screw 'em" and go after a richer class of votes. And then you'll get an even more leftist state.

But why actually think about it? It's not the Libertarian way.


93 posted on 11/03/2004 2:24:18 AM PST by AmishDude (The Libertarian Party is like al Qaeda, they'll make up any excuse to blow us all up.)
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To: Ichneumon
Clout. Now both major parties are going to go out of their way to court the smaller-government voters, so this sort of thing is less likely to happen next time.

ROTFLMAO.

That's a good one.

The results of this will be the Dem will say "I've got a mandate to raise your taxes and take away your freedoms. Oh, but I'll go easy on the potheads. Thanks Libertarian Party!"
94 posted on 11/03/2004 2:25:18 AM PST by swilhelm73 (We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida. --Ann Coulter)
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To: CWOJackson

Apparently not.


95 posted on 11/03/2004 2:25:22 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

Yes, those who can create, those who can't try to destroy. That's the LP campaign strategy...like a spoiled child.


96 posted on 11/03/2004 2:26:40 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Hank Rearden
You know, I'm starting to think you just may not be capable of understanding the point. Is this one of those deals where we're just wasting time annoying the pig?

It's certainly looking that way, isn't it?

Some people can't seem to grasp something as straightforward (but apparently too complicated for them) of sacrificing in the short term in order to achieve a long-term goal. Thus my comment about wanting to play him in chess for money -- sacrificing pieces in order to enhance your position on the board, in order to gain a larger prize later, is a key strategy in chess. It is also exactly what the libertarian party's strategy is here, but that flies *right* over some folks' heads.

97 posted on 11/03/2004 2:28:15 AM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: AmishDude
STATIST! (of the nanny variety)
98 posted on 11/03/2004 2:28:25 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, those who can create, those who can't try to destroy. That's the LP campaign strategy...like a spoiled child.

Do even you believe this pap?

99 posted on 11/03/2004 2:28:55 AM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And what did you get? What have you ever gotten? But don't think about it. Please, wallow in delusions.

The fact is that the power that the Governor of WA holds is real power. Power that will be used to expand government. Power that will be used to increase the narcotic qualities of the welfare state.

100 posted on 11/03/2004 2:29:00 AM PST by AmishDude (The Libertarian Party is like al Qaeda, they'll make up any excuse to blow us all up.)
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