Posted on 11/01/2004 5:45:25 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
Some left-leaning Californians say they would rather leave the United States -- and go to Canada or elsewhere -- than stay with George W. Bush as president.
''I certainly don't love the climate of Vancouver, but I love the sanity,'' said Steve Crawford, 54, a singer and actor working as a volunteer at the Democratic Party offices in Santa Monica.
He and his wife, Karen, have been investigating selling their home in Pacific Palisades, an upmarket area close to the coast, and moving to Canada.
''For someone like me, if this happens, I can't in good conscience allow myself to support another Bush government, even benignly. And a lot of other people are saying the same.
''I have a good friend who is adamant he will leave if Bush is re-elected. He's picked two countries and will definitely go to one should this happen.''
In the heavily Democratic state, famous for its Hollywood- and San Francisco-inspired latte liberal politics, such talk has become increasingly common at Starbucks and at dinner parties.
At first, the threat was little more than a joke. Now, on the eve of one of the most polarized elections in recent history, some say they really do intend to leave should ''the worst'' occur.
There seems little doubt Californians will deliver the state's valuable 55 electoral votes to the Democratic candidate. In a poll on Friday, Mr. Kerry had a seven-point lead statewide, with a 24-point lead in Los Angeles county and a 35-point lead in the San Francisco Bay area.
But fear at what may happen in the key swing states of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania has led to an escalation in coffee-shop chatter about emigration to Canada, Britain and elsewhere.
''Do you think Great Britain would give us political asylum?'' a woman in Starbucks asked. ''It's just ... I don't think I can stay if Bush wins again.''
Mr. Crawford said it would be a difficult decision to move his nine-year-old son from his elementary school. ''But if I feel he's going to be living in an environment that's not safe for him, then I will do it. First and foremost I'm a dad.''
Gretchen Witte, 35, from Alhambra, east of Los Angeles, who runs her own Internet business, is making plans to move to London, where she previously lived for eight years, should Mr. Bush win.
''As a woman, the current climate is becoming intolerable. Bush has just appointed a man to the FDA reproductive health panel who believes that women with medical trouble should pray to Jesus for relief. If this is what America is becoming, I cannot live here. The only reason I can sleep at night is the thought that I can leave the country if he wins.''
Robert Boleyn, a 35-year-old independent consultant from Los Angeles, says he hears people ''all the time' 'saying they will emigrate if Mr. Bush wins.
''But I think it's often more a measure of frustration with the last four years than a real intention to leave,'' he added.
Voluntary exile as a political statement is nothing new. Democrat-supporting celebrities have a habit of making (usually empty) threats to leave should the election not go their way. Robert Redford, a vocal critic of Mr. Bush's policies, was reported this month to have vowed to move to Ireland, where he owns homes near Dublin, if Mr. Bush is re-elected. Before the 2000 poll, Alec Baldwin's then wife, Kim Basinger, told Germany's Focus magazine the actor ''might leave the country if Bush is elected ... and then I'd probably have to go, too.'' Mr. Baldwin did not leave.
The only public figure to carry out his promise was Pierre Salinger, the White House press secretary during the Kennedy administration, who died last month. Before the 2000 election, he said: ''If Bush wins, I'm going to leave the country and spend the rest of my life in France.'' He did.
Folks, I know many of you aren't at all comfortable with vulgarity or "sex" on screen, but I nevertheless HIGHLY recommend "TEAM AMERICA." If you want to see the Hollywood elites "dissed" like never before, and CLEARLY EQUATED with our enemies, see this movie.
OOOOOOOkay!
Now where have I heard this before???
If these celebs leave and make a movie it will be ... not well attended.
To who?
Who the heck ARE these people!?
Just damn.
If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...
lol, like now?
Isn't ol' Afflict in some current movie?
Not ONE of these a$$holes will EVER leave. They are parasites on this country and it's freedoms. Bi*ch, moan and complain but never, ever leave.
What a buncha flakey fakes.
Prairie
"Vote for me. I need those who are the "Heart and Soul of America" to stand by me. You can grab your crotches, have more wardrobe malfunctions, and curse as much as you want. The Lord knows, my wife and I do it all the time. So tell the Republicans to "Shove it" and stay with me."
/sarcasm off
Since they put this in print...isn't there some way we can call it a legal binding contract and sue them if they don't follow through? LOL
oyez, I don't know what kind of effect their rantings and ravings have on the movie industry(hope it's negative), but more than one singer has been told to "shut up and sing". If we want any opinions, we'll ask for them. In the meantime we'll all just do the best that we can and do what's right.
Move!!!
Don't forget it's the public who pay their salaries and it's the public who can make em' or break em'.
Bye!
And don't let the screen door smack-ya on the way out.
Hysterical...they also supported the Iraq war...what a maroon...
1600 people died in Montreal's hospitals in 2003 due to dirty conditions which created fatal infections. Mark Steyn (conservative writer) living in NH but a Canuck blasted Kerry on Canada's health care. Steyn is outstanding.
BTW - Canadians want drug exports to stop because they are subsidizing the cheap canuck drugs for US taxpayers.
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