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It's The Turnout, Stupid
Washington Times ^ | Donald Lambro

Posted on 10/30/2004 11:43:03 PM PDT by HereComesTheGOP

As President Bush and Sen. John Kerry speed toward the finish line in this neck-and-neck race, campaign strategists say victory comes down to the candidate with the strongest voter-turnout operation in 10 battleground states that remain up for grabs. (snip)

(snip) But when it comes to getting out the vote, both camps say they have the largest turnout organizations in the history of the modern political era, which will tip key dead-even states into their columns. However, Democratic pollsters conceded that Mr. Bush is closer to the 270 electoral votes he needs to win, while Mr. Kerry appears to be further from that goal.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; election; kerry
However, Democratic pollsters conceded that Mr. Bush is closer to the 270 electoral votes he needs to win, while Mr. Kerry appears to be further from that goal.

Objectiveness!

1 posted on 10/30/2004 11:43:04 PM PDT by HereComesTheGOP
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To: HereComesTheGOP; PhiKapMom
Bush is at a distinct advantage as his voters are alive, and willing to crawl over broken glass, phony polls and MSM lies.


2 posted on 10/30/2004 11:46:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Yeah I'm just amazed that Dem's "admit that..........
PS ALL polls have been 50+ dems and 40ish GOP, slantng the polls, to mkae dems think they have a chance......

Kerry wins 12 states TOPS!


3 posted on 10/30/2004 11:49:13 PM PDT by HereComesTheGOP
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To: HereComesTheGOP

Problem with this is that Dems do not have to turn out as many voters, just number that will vote multiple times. They more stack the deck than keep Ace up sleeve.


4 posted on 10/30/2004 11:50:47 PM PDT by stopillegalimmigration
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To: HereComesTheGOP
You've got their modus operandi down. Which is where Kerry is going, despite all Soros' billions, thugs, fraud.

Goebbelsian propaganda to the contrary notwithstanding, Bush by five.


5 posted on 10/30/2004 11:58:13 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: HereComesTheGOP
Mr. Mathis acknowledged that the Teamsters' most recent poll "showed a fairly high number of undecideds, about 15 percent of our members. We have a lot of patriotic, socially conservative members."

Is he suggesting that only NON patriotic labor union would vote for Democrats...?

6 posted on 10/30/2004 11:58:48 PM PDT by paudio (CLINTON BOMBED BELGRADE WITHOUT EVEN BOTHER TO GO TO THE UN...)
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To: HereComesTheGOP
According to multiple articles (including this one), Bush is doing better than he did in 2000 among:

o Blacks

o Latins

o Women

o Jews

o Catholics

o Union members

o Virtually every state that Gore took (e.g., California, New Jersey).

There is no demographic in which he is reported to be doing worse than in 2000.

And, aside from New Hampshire (perhaps) and Ohio (perhaps), there is no state in which he is reported to be doing worse than he did in 2000.

So, how can it be that the race is "a dead heat", "too close to call"?

Answer: It's not.

Bush will win. Going away...

7 posted on 10/31/2004 12:02:44 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: PhilDragoo; All

My sense is that this line that a larger turnout will help Kerry is just that...a line.

I think the massive turnout will be people who recognize that in dangerous times we need to keep someone in the Oval office who is strong and resolute.

I think the masses may turn out in droves because they understand how imperative it is that Bush wins and Kerry loses as a matter of national security - and they will vote to re-elect Bush.

Am I alone in this conclusion???


8 posted on 10/31/2004 12:03:13 AM PDT by PowerPro (REMEMBER: Every State's a Swing State Until the Votes are Counted ... Go VOTE!)
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To: PowerPro

While I fully agree with your "Realistic" outlook, there are PLENTY of Idealists in this country...


9 posted on 10/31/2004 12:06:22 AM PDT by HereComesTheGOP
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To: PowerPro; HereComesTheGOP
The large turnout indicates a landslide for Bush.

The majority of Americans recognize we face the gravest threat in decades--more so than during the Cold War.

Kerry excites exactly no one, and the residual resentment vote from the left and the last election will not match the quiet concern of the security-conscious.

We may still expect the alphabet networks to delay calling states for Bush, rush calling states for Kerry, and lie about exit polling and poll closing times.

There will be a Greek chorus of lawyers lamenting, but in vain.

10 posted on 10/31/2004 12:15:32 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

I said in another thread that my biggest fear was rampant voter fraud on the left - but that I'm comforted that it looks at least like the GOP is ready for them this year...


11 posted on 10/31/2004 12:18:59 AM PDT by PowerPro (REMEMBER: Every State's a Swing State Until the Votes are Counted ... Go VOTE!)
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To: okie01
I'll wager Bush is doing worse with Radical Muslims. Recall that the Jewish Lieberman was Gore's Vice Presidential candidate.
12 posted on 10/31/2004 1:35:09 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (I was humble, before I was born. -- J Frondeur Kerry)
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To: ThePythonicCow
"There is no demographic in which he is reported to be doing worse than in 2000."

I'll wager Bush is doing worse with Radical Muslims.

You're quite right. I'd overlooked this major demographic. That explains why the race is tied, instead of Bush up by 10.

Clearly, the MSM is oversampling Radical Muslims -- i.e., the Michael Moore wing of the Democrat party.

13 posted on 10/31/2004 11:34:57 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: All
I look for an orchestrated Dem "voter slowdown" effort in key states. They will jam the poll booths with operatives who will simply camp out, forcing long lines and frustration for people who have things to do (i.e., Republicans).

The operatives will be of a politically protected class, and any effort to unseat them from the booths will result in cries of voter intimidation.

Note the disproportionate early voting tending for Kerry in spite of the polls. They are simply going to sit on a lead.

14 posted on 10/31/2004 11:42:29 AM PST by Royal Wulff
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