10/31 WND Exclusive:Former Colonel 'Kerry's non-honorable discharge?'

WorldNetDaily ^ | 10/31/04 | Earl Lively

[icecold]

Kerry's non-honorable discharge Exclusive: Earl Lively makes solid case senator left Navy under a cloud There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge, he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals. And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!

[Oldeconomybuyer]

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[REDWOOD99]

You don't believe that something like this could push the "undecideds" to W?

[Walkingfeather]

I do about 4 weeks ago, this should have dovetailed at the hight of the swiftys adds. But now it is way way too late. These kind of things have to have time to build. There is 2 days left, this and the kerry taking orders from paris should have happened and about the second week of september. It is next to useless now.

[REDWOOD99]

The way the stories work in this election cycle, it seems to me that the less time the opposition has to react the better.

[larryjohnson]

Why was kerry made O-3 inJan 70?

[REDWOOD99]

Check this thread, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1263495/posts?page=1

[tomnbeverly]

The bottom line is that America deserves the truth. If on NOV 03 we have Kerry in the WH. Then All of us need to immediately request the release of all records and investigation of all incidence. If it is determined that there was collusion then we can request Congress initiate impeachment proceedings. Kerry could likely be the first elected POTUS that was impeached days after his election.

Hopefully this is moot by NOV03 and we have a clear winner by a landslide GW Bush.

[TexasCajun]

Why has the RNC ignored this topic? Anyone? Please.

[holden]

Q:"Was there ever any question about you being dishonorably discharged?"
K:"Oh no, no, that has never been questioned."

See post #28, as Kerry would have left officer candidate status.

HF

[holden]

this was issued in March 2001 [snip]
he commmited treason or a punishable offence by his anti war activities after March 1970, whilst still a commissioned officer

If Qerri was judged to have "given aid or comfort," or "collaborated with the Viet Cong" by an official board with contemporaneous jurisdiction, nothing short of a 2/3 vote of Congress can restore his ability to hold the office of Senator or Vice-President, under the 14th Amendment, Section 3 of the Constitution. An after-the-fact Executive Order set in motion by a fellow traveler would sadly typify a disgraced legacy, as it attempted a continuing pattern of gaming-the-system. Wouldn't it be just too clever-by-half if all the government's supermajority voting clauses could be technically undone?!

HF

[Quix]

THANKS.

Sent to my email list.

[MeekOneGOP]

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From the article:

Senator Kerry has said that his medal certificates were reissued because he lost them (and his dog ate his homework, I suppose). Rewards are certified in one's permanent personnel record jacket. If you lose a medal, you can get a replacement medal if your records show the award. The only way awards would have to be reissued is if they were rescinded and deleted from your records. And this narrows the possibilities down to a dishonorable discharge or an undesirable discharge. As Mr. Lipscomb noted, "There is one odd coincidence that gives some weight to the possibility that Mr. Kerry was dishonorably discharged. … (W)hen a dishonorable discharge is issued, all pay benefits, and allowances, and all medals and honors are revoked as well. And five months after Mr. Kerry joined the U.S. Senate in 1985, on one single day, June 4, all of Mr. Kerry's medals were reissued." Military sources tell me that an undesirable discharge under other-than-honorable conditions would also result in a loss of benefits and awards. Kerry could have received a dishonorable discharge, but that would have required a court martial and a felony conviction that might be harder to conceal, so the undesirable discharge is more likely.

The experience of my thirty-plus years in the Navy, U.S. Air Force, and Air National Guard tells me that the late-issued honorable discharge was obviously a cover-up whitewash. Ditto for the re-issuance of Kerry's medals shortly after he became a member of the "ol' boys club" in the Senate.

One of the top dogs in that club, Sen. John Warner, has amnesia about "any representation" about Kerry receiving a less than honorable discharge, even though he was Nixon's Secretary of the Navy when Kerry delivered his diatribe against the Navy and other services in the Senate in April, 1971. In May of 1970, Kerry conferred with the Viet Cong in Paris, and in July of 1971, he demonstrated in Washington to sell their peace proposal – while he was in the Naval Reserve. This variety of amnesia is common among Republicans asked to stand up and testify to Democrat crimes and injustices (see the GOP Senators' "support" of the House impeachment prosecutors).

The Nixon/Ford presidency gave way to Democrat President Jimmy Carter in 1977, which tends to explain the six-year delay in getting the revised discharge. Mr. Lipscomb adds some insight:

"Mr. Carter's first act as president was a general amnesty for draft dodgers and other war protesters. Less than an hour after his inauguration on January 21, 1977, while still in the Capitol building, Mr. Carter signed Executive Order 4483 empowering it. By the time it became a directive from the Defense Department in March 1977 it had been expanded to include other offenders who may have had general, bad conduct, dishonorable discharges, and any other discharge or sentence with negative effect on military records. In those cases the directive outlined a procedure for appeal on a case by case basis before a board of officers. A satisfactory appeal would result in an improvement of discharge status or an honorable discharge."

A document on Kerry's website is a form letter from W. Graham Claytor, Carter's Secretary of the Navy, which grants his Honorable Discharge.

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My thanks to BulletBobCo for the concept of this
pic and to Conspiracy Guy for the captions!

[Quix]

I THINK

we would all do The Republic a great service to bombard FOX and . . . ABC with this news and earnestly 'demand' that they investigate with all the speed and force they can muster.

[Quix]

MEDIA EMAILS SENT AS WELL AS TO MY EMAIL LIST.

I also suggest that any chances of getting into any SKERRY town hall meetings or even with poster signs on travel routes--this should be screamed out as loudly and vividly and broadly as possible the next 48 hours.

But even more, we must pray.

Pray that SKERRY'S evil heart; his duplicities in abundance will be vividly exposed.

Pray that Bush will find favor with ALL the undecideds and at least 10% of the PLAN-TO SKERRY VOTERS.

Blessings,

[Quix]

It has plenty of validity.

Getting vivid triplicat proof is not so easy. The puppet masters, the news orgs and SKERRY'S own slick willy-ness have all conspired against the truth for many months. Nothing new in that.

But the article is very convincing and accurate.

More, We CAN PRAY. GOD HAS WAYS OF EXPOSING EVIL THAT WE CAN'T BEGIN TO MATCH.

[Quix]

But FREEPERS could still scream it in press's hearing and at any town hall meetings and have big signs of it on the routes near any media.

[snarks_when_bored]

Good ideas that are, I fear, past their effective implementation date. I wish I were mistaken.

[Quix]

Possibly.

But . . . on the chance that some voters would see some signs or hear the screams . . . worth doing.

Nothing but bother to lose.

[snarks_when_bored]

Agreed.

[msdrby]

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