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Fred and Mort predict 286 Electoral College votes for GWB, which strangely does not include Ohio. Upper midwest states make up for Ohio in their mind. Their pop vote prediction is 51-49 for W. For what it's worth...
1 posted on 10/30/2004 3:48:16 PM PDT by scottinoc
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How good are their predictions? (Either way I tend to think they're pretty close to what I think)


2 posted on 10/30/2004 3:49:38 PM PDT by zr2hammer
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Ohio goes to Bush. That gives Bush 306.


3 posted on 10/30/2004 3:49:50 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Real friends don't let friends vote Democrat.)
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Works for me. I don't care if Bush wins by 537 votes again, as long as he wins.


4 posted on 10/30/2004 3:50:04 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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286 if Bush loses Ohio, means that Bush carries Iowa, NM, Minn and Wisconsin, and of course Florida.


5 posted on 10/30/2004 3:50:15 PM PDT by Torie
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Very conservative prediction. They also said that the 'resourceful' Dasshole will find a way to pull it out in SD.

I bet he will!

6 posted on 10/30/2004 3:50:18 PM PDT by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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Did they have OH for Kerry or too close to call?

What has happened with WV? I cannot believe that Robert C. Byrd does not have some trick in mind for Tuesday.


7 posted on 10/30/2004 3:50:30 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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Bump!! Good news!


9 posted on 10/30/2004 3:51:21 PM PDT by BobFromNJ (go-Star-go)
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They predicted Dashle will win over Thune. I thought the latest polls were showing the opposite.


17 posted on 10/30/2004 3:56:10 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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Last week and this week were the first time they showed GWB winning over Kerry. Previously they had Kerry winning--by a significant margin.

The one notable commentary was about Daschle. They seem to think he will pull out a win over Thune.


18 posted on 10/30/2004 3:56:14 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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I watched the Boys, and I agree with most of their predictrions. I think Bush will win Ohio, despite all of the dirty tricks this week. It will either be a narrow Bush victory, or a landslide.

I voted on Tuesday. Vote early and bring a friend.


20 posted on 10/30/2004 3:57:00 PM PDT by TripsN1
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They didn't include the Democrat Fraud Factor in their prognastication.


22 posted on 10/30/2004 3:57:09 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (Textbook Title in 2085AD: "The "Red/Blue" Civil War")
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Kerry will win Mass, Vermont, NY, California, Maryland, Delaware, Wash. state (if he's lucky). The rest my friends is Bush Country.


24 posted on 10/30/2004 3:58:39 PM PDT by pissant
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The problem with comparing predictions from 2000 with ones from 2004 is that methods were adjusted since then in many cases. So to say someone was right or wrong with their 2000 predictions proves they are right or wrong this time isnt very helpful.

I used to be skeptical about how W backers attacked Zogby for his methods because they didn't show our guy leading, until I saw his 2002 bellyflops. And this week he changed his weighting because he didn't believe his Thune numbers--changing your methods AFTER you've come up with an answer is amateur hour.

I don't know what to think about this prediction, but if they learned from 2000, it's legit.

26 posted on 10/30/2004 4:00:50 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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GEE I HOPE SO! [ 286 Electoral College votes for GWB ]
I have had a bad bad year. First a fire at our house Oc.t 2003. Then we got robbed in San Antonio $32K worth. Then OSU lost to Texas A&M. Yes that is serious to ME. OSU lost to OU today. We went to Cotton Bowl and OSU lost. We went to the Final Four and OSU lost. Like my luck is just rotten for 13 months now. It just seems like everything keeps going wrong. I won't list all the little problems or the rest of the big ones. But it seems like every time I wake up determined to keep my chin up, I get kicked back into the dirt face down. That is why I have been so worried about the presidential election. I have been so jinxed lately. Maybe Tuesday will mark the start of my GOOD LUCK YEAR!!!!!!


27 posted on 10/30/2004 4:03:02 PM PDT by buffyt (~Sure~ Kerry is smooth, a SMOOTH LIAR, but so is the underbelly of a poisonous snake!~)
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Mort and Fred have been saying OH won't go to Bush for a while now. I'm not sure why they're so pessimistic there.

They also stand by their prediction that Daschle will win.


29 posted on 10/30/2004 4:06:54 PM PDT by Gunder
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Man, I hope it's a landslide...just to shut up the friggin' talking heads and the liberal MSM!!!!
and what I'd give for 59 Senate seats


31 posted on 10/30/2004 4:09:41 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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Fred has flipped-flopped he said 306 on the Weekly Standard.


34 posted on 10/30/2004 4:13:04 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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The November surprise will be Fred and Mort finally admit they are lovers. I swear I never feel quite at ease watching that pair.


41 posted on 10/30/2004 4:36:47 PM PDT by festus (All Your Electoral Votes Are Belong To Us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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I have 306-232, but several 3 pt or less races.


48 posted on 10/30/2004 4:56:17 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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