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1 posted on 10/30/2004 3:46:31 PM PDT by doug from upland
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If Kerry is elected, you can kiss military retention goodbye.


2 posted on 10/30/2004 3:48:01 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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I go to basic on the 23rd of November...I've pondered this too. I plan on making a career out of the Air Force so I will have to wait and see what the situation is when it is time to re-up.


4 posted on 10/30/2004 3:50:03 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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Not a tough decision to make at all.


6 posted on 10/30/2004 3:51:24 PM PDT by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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My son in law is in the Navy

Please thank your son for his service....If Kerry is elected we will need a draft. Almost no military man/women will serve under a CIC such as him. He abandoned his Band of Brothers in Vietnam and spoke ill of them.

7 posted on 10/30/2004 3:51:36 PM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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Makes you what to ask how will you get an all volunteer army with sKerry as potus?Draft ?
8 posted on 10/30/2004 3:51:48 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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Truly poetic justice if these loser college students would all vote for Kerry and have to be drafted....


9 posted on 10/30/2004 3:51:55 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: doug from upland

I totally feel his pain. I recently retired after 22 years of service and Kerry is doing the same thing now that he did in 1971. He is falsely accusing the military of not being competent in Tora Bora and in Al Quaqaa. Again he does this for political self gratification and even though he says he is not criticizing the troops in fact he is. The President does not micro manage daily operations in Iraq. We have the best trained and equipt military in all the world and John Kerry refuses to acknowledge it. Every time he or his pundits say the President did not have enough troops on the ground in Iraq at the outset I want to scream because I was there part of thousands of troops that were in standby in Kuwait, Dahran, Bahrain etc. In stand by in case Sadaam's army proved to be tougher then it was. We were only allowed to return home after the Fall of Baghdad and in coordination with the recommendations of the Tommy Franks and the Generals in the field. Kerry makes me sick. He has no idea how to fight a war in the 21st century. He remembers vietnam and thinks you need thousands of troops to take imaginery hills. He would be the worst thing for the military ever and in my opinion he would turn our military over the UN for them to use at their disposal. I pray for our troops everyday and I pray that John Kerry will not be given the opportunity to ruin the best fighting force in the world today. Thank You and thanks to your son for continuing to keep us safe.


10 posted on 10/30/2004 3:53:03 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (Kerry will bring the Big Dig to Washington in the form of Healthcare becasue thats what liberals do)
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When I separated from the Air Force in 1992 it was in part due to Clintoon becoming CIC. I work at a military base now as a civilian. I know from hearing the guys and gals first hand that if Kerry becomes CIC then they will walk and Kerry will be left with a military in shambles.

In that light, there is more than we thought hanging on whether or not Bush wins re-election. The very security of our nation hangs in the balance.

13 posted on 10/30/2004 3:55:08 PM PDT by pctech
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I can understand why your son is worried, My son is in Iraq now he is a Marine and he and his other fellow Marines are also worried if Kerry gets elected. I keep telling myself and son not to worry about it, but as a parent I will always worry as long as he is in Iraq, as long as George W. Bush remains our Commander and Chief we all will have less to worry about.


14 posted on 10/30/2004 3:55:38 PM PDT by Proud Republican 99 (Bush/Cheney 0'4 for a Strong and Proud Nation)
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First, thank your son for his service to our country, sir.

You bring up a point that I have worried about too - morale of the troops under an anti-war president.

A Kerry election would be a blow to our allies - who Kerry called "The Coalition of The Bribed." It's a tremendous slur against nations who have private citizens beheaded because of their government's involvement in the war.

Finally, I fear that with a Kerry election, Tony Blair, along with John Howard would be isolated in the war on terror.


18 posted on 10/30/2004 3:57:04 PM PDT by mwfsu84 (v)
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The military survived every a**hole President - LBJ, the Peanut, and Clinton. Fortunately, we have an institution that transcends occasional electoral blunders.


19 posted on 10/30/2004 3:57:15 PM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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Mil bloggers Sgt Hook and Citizen Frank say soldiers will serve the commander in chief no matter who it is. In fact, they say it DOESN'T matter. But it does.

Kerry may have technically been enlisted but he was never a trooper. He was right to throw away his medals because he did not deserve them.

We may have legal grounds to impeach him should he be elected. "Stolen Honor" will air tomorrow night on PAX.


21 posted on 10/30/2004 3:59:59 PM PDT by KiloLima (God Bless America)
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Kerry's election means an end to the volunteer army and a return to the draft.

It's the democrat's motus operandi.
No soldier wants to serve under a known communist, Kerry is one, so that settles it. Soldiers of patriotic bent will drop out. No KOSOVO's for God fearing American soldiers. Killing greek orthodox christians tomake room for the alquaieda muzzies, and provide them a base of operations in Europe, was morally repugnant to many americans, and soldiers.

clintong did it.
Kerry would have us bombing Taiwan, to pacify the rebels (as beijing calls it).

And soldiers of freedom loving birth, won't have it. Hence, to enforce socialism worldwide, will require us to put american men into a draft that is run for the benefit of the United Nations. That is the worldview of John Kerry & Co.

I pray fervently for his defeat.
As I do for President Bush's firm, and incontravertable victory.

God help us this next three days.

--robert


25 posted on 10/30/2004 4:01:15 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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Would commander in chief Kerry force them to wear the blue helmets of the U.N.? Would he turn them over to a world court for justice? Would he veto funding bills like the $87 billion?

Yes, yes and yes.

26 posted on 10/30/2004 4:02:02 PM PDT by mountaineer
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If Kerry wins, military people will leave the service en masse (who wants to trust his life to that traitor?) and more 9/11s will happen. Very sad, but I'm afraid it's true: if the American people are too stupid to elect the man who would protect them, they probably deserve whatever misfortune befalls them.

The outrage is that Kerry can only win by fraud. In that case, civil war will be the only remedy available to people, the only way to shed the leftist tyrants who would feed on them. Jefferson warned us this would happen. If not in 2004, then someday. We'd better be ready for it when it comes.

That said, I really do not believe Kerry can win this. Maybe Hillary in 2008. But not Kerry in 2004.

27 posted on 10/30/2004 4:02:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker (Got a flu shot shortage? You can thank Kerry's running mate.)
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"With Kerry, they know that they are facing the prospect of being commanded by someone who can truly be called a traitor."

Bears repeating.


29 posted on 10/30/2004 4:05:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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Would commander in chief Kerry force them to wear the blue helmets of the U.N.? Would he turn them over to a world court for justice? Would he veto funding bills like the $87 billion?

Hasn't Kerry pretty much said as much? He's for rule by the UN. He wants world government with the USA towing the line --- whatever the UN says will go.

30 posted on 10/30/2004 4:05:19 PM PDT by FITZ
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The U.S. military enlistment/commissioning oath is centered primarily on the phrase "Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States".


31 posted on 10/30/2004 4:06:07 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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Well, I doubt that the numbers will remain the same, but I can't see Kerry doing the draft thing.

IMO, he would welcome a much smaller military, and I think he's planning on that very attrition to achieve it.

I don't believe that US soldiers have to serve in Blue Helmets. There was a case about that in Bosnia, and the soldier didn't have to serve under the UN, Clinton, don't you know, but I don't remember if they just folded and let him go, or if it was a legal precedent setting case. Anyone?
33 posted on 10/30/2004 4:08:12 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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I'm afraid that Kerry will sign us onto the ICC. I can imagine him allowing members of our military to be tried for war crimes. That is one of the many reasons why I'm voting for GWB.

I've asked my husband several times what he will do if Kerry wins. He says that he will stay in the military because he serves this country, not just one man. I admire his patriotism, but I'm still concerned.


36 posted on 10/30/2004 4:10:37 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (No one notices the water until the well runs dry.)
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