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JOHN KERRY'S MILITARY SERVICE RECORDS?
30 October 2004 | KD7SY

Posted on 10/30/2004 11:56:42 AM PDT by KD7SY

I am new at this, and can anyone tell me why JFK's military records can not be obtained via the Freedom of Information act? I know that his records are of a personal nature but, once he runs for a public office, especially one as high as President of the United States. I would think that we all have the right to know all we can about this guy. The welfare of our country is at stake. This fact alone should place his records in the public domain! If not then, "Blast and Damned!" God Help us!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aidingtheenemy; dishonorabledischarg; form180; hanoijohnny; kerry; kerrysecrets; lurch; militaryrecord

1 posted on 10/30/2004 11:56:42 AM PDT by KD7SY
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To: KD7SY

The FOIA cannot extend to certain personal military records
unless the serviceperson executes a Standard Form 180 (or
if the person is POTUS, executes an equivalent Executive
Order, which is what Bush did).

Kerry refuses to sign the SF-180, and the legacy media
refuses to call him on his lie that he's released everything
except his medical records. Between 32 and 100 pages of
material are still being withheld.


2 posted on 10/30/2004 12:03:38 PM PDT by Boundless (bin Laden is running an IQ test next Tuesday. Score high on it.)
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To: KD7SY

I remember reading that Kerry himself has to sign the Form 180 in order for them to be released. Apparently the FOIA does not apply to these types of records.

I can't believe that he actually made it through the campaign without SOMEONE forcing him to release those records.


3 posted on 10/30/2004 12:03:58 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: KD7SY

Hey JAMES!


4 posted on 10/30/2004 12:06:14 PM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: Joann37
It's a little late now to be banging this drum. Even if his Form 180 were magically signed today - I'm sure the Pentagon would take weeks to release his records. Even if there was a photograph of Kerry with a German Shepard in a Motel 6 in there - the MSM wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

This issue will not have an impact on Tuesday's election - move on to something that will.
5 posted on 10/30/2004 12:08:17 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken; Chieftain

No dog would go to a Motel 6 with Kerry! Please don't insult the intelligence and taste of our canine patriots.


6 posted on 10/30/2004 12:12:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (While Rome burns.....Edwards powders his nose!)
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To: KD7SY

Welcome to FR. Maybe you should search this topic on FR--is has been discussed at length with "length" being the operative word.


7 posted on 10/30/2004 12:15:56 PM PDT by Moomah
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To: KD7SY
Try the 'Search' feature to find and read the hundreds of theads on this issue.

Welcome aboard.

8 posted on 10/30/2004 12:17:54 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: KD7SY

Some should sue him just to file a countersuit to keep them out of the public view, and the Headline will be "What is sKerry afraid of?"


9 posted on 10/30/2004 12:20:57 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (Textbook Title in 2085AD: "The "Red/Blue" Civil War")
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To: Joann37
I can't believe that he actually made it through the campaign without SOMEONE forcing him to release those records.

They are in the same file cabinet that contains Bill Clinton's medical records. - Tom

10 posted on 10/30/2004 12:22:10 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

wouldn't that be a French poodle? that dog won't hunt.


11 posted on 10/30/2004 12:32:49 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece:Charity is conservative;doing it with someone else's money is liberal.)
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To: KD7SY
Kerry records

How to search

12 posted on 10/30/2004 12:33:20 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
"It's a little late now to be banging this drum. Even if his Form 180 were magically signed today - I'm sure the Pentagon would take weeks to release his records. Even if there was a photograph of Kerry with a German Shepard in a Motel 6 in there - the MSM wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. This issue will not have an impact on Tuesday's election - move on to something that will."

No, I'm pretty sure that the whole file is locked in someones desk, just waiting to be released. It says much, for the integrity of the pentagon, that no one has leaked it yet.

13 posted on 10/30/2004 12:43:09 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: Joann37

He made it through the campaign without being asked because he made sure he didn't go where they might ask him. I am sure he knows that Fox would ask the question, thus, no Kerry on Fox.


14 posted on 10/30/2004 12:45:00 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Boundless

Does anyone here have any idea why Kerry doesn't want even the medical records released?


15 posted on 10/30/2004 12:51:44 PM PDT by Fam4Bush (I have a plan.......my plan is to vote Dubya on 11/2.)
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To: Fam4Bush

> Does anyone here have any idea why Kerry doesn't
> want even the medical records released?

a. because it will reveal how minor the "wounds" were, and

b. the usual suspicions about recreational diseases


16 posted on 10/30/2004 12:59:28 PM PDT by Boundless (bin Laden is running an IQ test next Tuesday. Score high on it.)
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To: Oblongata; All

I don't know if this will help, but a little background from my perspective and experience. Kerry's, and all federal and military records are stored, as has been our knowledge (husband, retired officer, 28 years service), at the Federal Depository in the Salt Mines in Kansas City. The Pentagon does not have these papers. They couldn't have. Nothing gets out of the Federal Depository without the proper signature. In Kerry's case he must sign the Form 180, no matter who requests them, the form must be signed by him.

For anyone to attempt to take anything out of there without the proper signature is a Violation of Privacy Act. You cannot get anything out via the Freedom of Information Act because, as I said the person must agree to the release. These are our rights, and serve as safeguards to protect everyone. (As unfortunate as it might be in this case.)

A Violation of the Privacy Act, is...by the way...A Federal Felony. I doubt that anyone connected with this campaign, any "investigative reporter," or any one who seeks this information, even if for the "greater good," would be willing to risk that charge.

Unfortunately, unless something miraculous changes this situation we just have to hope that good will win out over evil in this election. Even if Kerry thinks he has the whole world fooled, it will Ketchup with him. Have hope. Bush will win on his Honorable Record - as our Commander and Chief.


17 posted on 10/31/2004 4:56:21 PM PST by CitizenM
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To: Capt. Tom
....same file cabinet that contains Bill Clinton's medical records....

The blame for the absence of medical records for Kerry can be laid at the feet of Papa Bush, who refused to nail Bill Clinton for not providing his, thus establishing this wack-o precedent.

It doesn't take much of a vet to figure out that there are some interesting medical conditions going on with Kerry.

18 posted on 10/31/2004 5:15:16 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: CitizenM
"Even if Kerry thinks he has the whole world fooled, it will Ketchup with him. Have hope. Bush will win on his Honorable Record - as our Commander and Chief." Haha! Good one.
19 posted on 10/31/2004 6:11:06 PM PST by Oblongata
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