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Oglala order could prevent GOP poll watching on Pine Ridge Reservation (South Dakota Fraud Alert)
Aberdeen American News ^ | Fri, Oct. 29, 2004 | Carson Walker

Posted on 10/30/2004 9:02:00 AM PDT by Pardon Me

Oglala order could prevent GOP poll watching on Pine Ridge

CARSON WALKER

Associated Press

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. - A tribal judge filed an order Friday that, if upheld, may prevent South Dakota Republican Party workers from observing Tuesday's voting on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

The Four Directions Committee, which bills itself as a nonpartisan group trying to increase American Indian voting, was granted the temporary restraining order against the South Dakota Republican Party and Ryan Knutson. Oglala Sioux Tribe Judge Marina Fast Horse signed the order without telling them about it ahead of time.

In the document, Four Directions accuses Knutson of intimidating its workers on Wednesday at Pine Ridge by videotaping them on private property as they discussed the voting process.

It does not accuse him of intimidating voters going to the polls early.

Four Directions Executive Director Bret Healy said Friday evening the intent is to stop intimidation of tribal members.

"It's a two-by-four upside the head to get the attention of the folks that are causing problems," he said. "We want an election that doesn't have this kind of nonsense going on."

Attorney General Larry Long got a copy of the order late Friday afternoon and said he is not sure whether the tribal judge's order can be enforced and how many Republicans it applies to.

"Anyone who's subject to the order, presumably if they go within 100 yards of a polling place on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, they'll be arrested and thrown in jail," he said after reading the order.

"I don't think you can read the order and reach either conclusion" about whether it merely applies to Knutson or all Republican employees and volunteers, Long said.

This weekend, Long plans to try to figure out if the state should file a legal response.

Healy said the order does not preclude Republicans from being at the polls.

"I guess it's only employees of the South Dakota Republican Party. That wouldn't affect volunteer poll watchers," he said.

But Long and Jason Glodt, executive director of the Republican Party, said the way the order is written, it could be applied broadly.

"It limits it to (Sen. Tom) Daschle and Democrat lawyers," Glodt said. "This is a page right out of the DNC (Democratic National Committee) playbook - their pre-emptive strike game plan that their poll watchers are supposed to claim intimidation, even if there's no proof of intimidation."

Glodt said Knutson hasn't worked for the party since early September but acknowledged that someone else was videotaping people in Pine Ridge in response to reports of voter problems.

"They were simply observing problems that were reported. They were not in or anywhere near a polling place," he said. "Our point is what are the Democrats trying to hide? Why don't they want Republican poll watchers in Pine Ridge?"

Healy said if Republicans had heard of voter problems, they should have told the auditor.

"What reports of irregularities?" Healy said. "They ought to report that to the appropriate authorities instead of going out there in vigilante style."

Glodt said the party had not yet decided how to respond.

The incident listed in the court order happened around 4 p.m. Wednesday.

Robert Vander-Linden and other committee workers were gathered south of Pine Ridge on the property of PTI, a propane business, as drivers arrived with voter lists. They "were discussing voter turnout issues when a commotion occurred on the described private lands. The Four Directions Committee members turned to see Ryan Knutson videotaping the petitioners," the order states.

When asked what he was doing, Knutson said he was "just doing my job." He drove to a different area of the property but eventually left toward White Clay, Neb.

Vander-Linden and the owners of PTI "were upset by Mr. Knutson's conduct," the document states.

Knutson, "by trespassing on private property, ignoring directives to vacate said property, and videotaping attempts to get out the Indian vote are clearly attempting to chill the Indian vote," it states.

Shannon and Jackson counties comprise the reservation, which has 16,000 residents.

Both major political parties and some campaigns have actively courted Indian voters this year.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: americanindians; elections; observers; pineridge; thune; votefraud; voterfraud
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1 posted on 10/30/2004 9:02:01 AM PDT by Pardon Me
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To: Pardon Me

Well, since this is where the majority of the fraud happened in 2000, this works out swell for little Tommy, doesn't it?


2 posted on 10/30/2004 9:04:10 AM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Pardon Me

Bump and the fun continues.


3 posted on 10/30/2004 9:04:40 AM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: Pardon Me

Remember the last Senatorial election in SD? Thune was tied and all of a sudden, votes from one area arrived and were almost all cast for the democrat. It was an area where Thune was expected to have an edge.


4 posted on 10/30/2004 9:07:32 AM PDT by Trepz
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To: Trepz

This is the same area of the state! Isn't this just swell!


5 posted on 10/30/2004 9:09:26 AM PDT by Pardon Me (Dump Daschle-Dump Daschle-DumpDaschle-DumpDaschle-DumpDaschle......)
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To: Howlin

(Ms. Kaiser Sose): "Listen, Short one, do not worry about any threats to our plans.
Did they even touch Sandy Berger or any of us?
We control more than one hundred stolen FBI files
-- I mean 'badges of honor' -- on important officials in your state
so no one will EVER DARE touch any of us.
Now bring out our dead to vote, or I have just three words for you and them.
"


6 posted on 10/30/2004 9:14:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: Pardon Me

i've already posted on this. see this thread for what you can do to help http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1262614/posts?page=5

number for the SD Att Gen is there and an e-mail link. let's overload his phone lines please


7 posted on 10/30/2004 9:14:39 AM PDT by sdpatriot
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To: Pardon Me

Well then I guess that we will not count their votes huh!


8 posted on 10/30/2004 9:14:54 AM PDT by zzen01
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To: Pardon Me

Looks like the Dead will get to vote again!


9 posted on 10/30/2004 9:15:00 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: Pardon Me

This is a US federal election, not a Sioux election. They need to appeal this to the federal courts immediately.


10 posted on 10/30/2004 9:15:07 AM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: Pardon Me; Congressman Billybob
So, the "official" democrat party response, through this supposed "independent group's leader" is that the repubbies are supposed to make specific claims of wrong-doing, and, without those specific claims, there was no illegal activity.

And, just to make sure there are no claims, the democrats get a hand-picked (tribal judge?) democrat to write a disjointed, poorly-written, over-broad restriction order AGAINST ANYBODY (anybody who is not from a democrat party lawyer that is!) from observing the polling place (NOT "private property"!) so they can OBSERVE (potential) illegal action so they can to make a statement claiming illegal activities to allow them to substantiate their claim.

But the claim of illegal activity by the democrats (according to the democrats' spokesman!) MUST be made without having video to capture evidence.
11 posted on 10/30/2004 9:15:25 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Pardon Me

This clown only has this authority if he involks his "independant nation" status.

If that status holds, then participation in "our" election is forsaken.


12 posted on 10/30/2004 9:15:46 AM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: Pardon Me

A good place for FEDERAL election monitors.


13 posted on 10/30/2004 9:21:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: Lunkhead_01
This is a US federal election, not a Sioux election.

Exactly, either they can abide by FEDERAL election rules, or the polling place must be closed; and the indians can vote on state soil, where the laws are observed.

14 posted on 10/30/2004 9:25:38 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Pardon Me

A "tribal judge" decides who can monitor the polls in a FEDERAL election? Will an Iman in Dearborn decree that sharia denies women the vote in this election?


15 posted on 10/30/2004 9:28:28 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: Pardon Me

If the Indians are in their own country they shouldn't be voting in U.S. elections.


16 posted on 10/30/2004 9:42:54 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Pardon Me

Then the indians are going to have to go to an off reservation polling place if they wish to participate in federal elections. If the polls can not be observed, then it's safe to say they can not be judged to be fair.


17 posted on 10/30/2004 9:47:45 AM PDT by McGavin999 (We have planted the seeds of democracy and watered them with our blood, now let freedom reign)
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To: Pardon Me

Oh wait, I have an idea. If there can not be republican poll watchers there, perhaps federal marshalls can fill the void.


18 posted on 10/30/2004 9:48:38 AM PDT by McGavin999 (We have planted the seeds of democracy and watered them with our blood, now let freedom reign)
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To: Pardon Me

But if they allow poll watchers, then they couldn't vote as often as they like. People can vote as many times as they like in Chicago and St. Louis, why not the reservations? Doesn't sound fair.


19 posted on 10/30/2004 9:50:16 AM PDT by Blast_Master
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To: Pardon Me

Question: Can anyone explain to me why these f*ck*rs vote democrat?


20 posted on 10/30/2004 10:12:34 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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