Laser Etching ID Proposed For Handgun Ammo

"Inside News" Firearms Marketing Group | October 2004 | Denny Fallon

[Travis McGee]

Note from Travis McGee: I receive this six page "Inside News" industry newsletter, put out by the Firearms Marketing Group, an organization which publishes a lot of glossy gun magazines. I haven't heard of laser etching bullets before, and thought it might be of interest to the RKBA crowd here. Sounds great for catching crooks, but what are the downside risks to our gun rights?

[Travis McGee]

PING!

[Travis McGee]

I typed this up myself, so any typos are my own.

[cyborg]

The criminals always find a way around these things.

[The_Macallan]

tagged.

[Norski]

Is Randy Rossi related to the Italian company Rossi which manufactures firearms?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Sounds great for catching crooks, but what are the downside risks to our gun rights?

1. It won't work.
2. It will be expensive.
3. It will be illegal to own bullets that aren't laser tagged.
4. The registration system will cost money, and will be payed for by adding an exorbitant tax to bullets.
5. Did I mention it won't work?

[Boundless]

If it doesn't work on .22s, it probably doesn't work on
any soft lead (non-jacketed) rounds.

But beyond that, if the former ammo-logging under the
BATF never solved a crime, why would they expect to
find the actual per after a serialized bullet trace?

Costs? Phenomenal. Yet another reason for reasonable
people to get the heck out of kahlifornya.

[Trepz]

I was thinking the same thing. Using something to sand or grind off the nos. wouldn't be that difficult. It goes back to the point that laws are for the law abiding. Criminals don't care about the laws.

[ozzymandus]

A serial number on every bullet?? Baloney!

[anonsquared]

"but what are the downside risks to our gun rights?"

Criminals breaking into your home to steal your laser etched ammo for starters.

[Travis McGee]

Rossi? Beats me. All I know about laser etching, I typed from the newsletter into this post.

Pretty cool having a "gun name" though. I'd like to be named "Colt Winchester" myself. Maybe I can name a character that...

[clee1]

No problem; I load my own.

If reloading becomes illegal (and I really cannot see that happening) then I will be a lawbreaker.

[Stevenc131]

Hey, if they would only put serial numbers on guns, they could record those serial numbers when they sold the gun and it would lead them right to all the criminals who use guns. Oh, wait.

[gr8bigdude]

I heard that the UID marking is only 1/2 of the proposal. The other half is requiring ammo buyers to submit fingerprints at the time of purchase, thus forever linking the ammo and the buyer. This is a HUGE threat to the 2nd amendment - "they" want to control the ammo, as guns are worthless without it.

[Travis McGee]

They'll just make you buy pre-etched factory-made bullets. Molding cast lead bullets will probably be a crime, similar to manufacturing a silencer, or sawing off a shotgun barrel.

[clee1]

Too late, I already have bullet molds for all my calibers.

As to the other two listed crimes.... no comment.

[Redcoat LI]

The criminals always find a way around these things

True, and the person who fires a bullet is not necissarily the person who purchased them,

If a criminal steals your weapon and ammo, what good will that do?

[spodefly]

There is nothing too idiotic for a gun banner.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Save your Brass! CYA!