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New York Times analysis: [Libertarian] Badnarik's impact could be 'critical'
LP ^ | 10/29/04 | NY Times via LP.org

Posted on 10/29/2004 8:50:48 PM PDT by freedom44

WASHINGTON -- Move over, Ralph Nader: A New York Times analysis says that Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik could be 'critical' to the outcome of the 2004 election, and that the party's 2000 candidate may have cost Bush at least four states.

In the Sunday, October 24 "Political Points" column, New York Times writer John Tierney asserts that in 2000, Bush "could have won Florida easily, and possibly several other states, if the Libertarian candidate, Harry Browne, was not in the race," assuming that Browne's votes would have gone to Bush.

In Florida, Browne earned 16,415 votes, while Bush defeated Al Gore by just 537 votes.

In three states won by Gore -- New Mexico, Oregon and Wisconsin -- Browne won more votes than the difference separating Bush and Gore, the article notes. In New Mexico, for example, Gore prevailed by 366 votes while Browne earned 2,058, and in Wisconsin, Gore beat Bush by 5,708 votes while Browne garnered 6,640.

With New Mexico, Wisconsin and other battleground states too close to call again in 2004, Libertarian Badnarik has the potential to "Naderize" Bush by attracting conservative votes, according to Tierney and other analysts.

A recent Zogby/Reuters national poll shows Badnarik tied with Nader at 1 percentage point, which is "not much, but possibly critical" to the outcome on Election Day, Tierney says.

Rasmussen polls have put Badnarik as high as 5 percent in New Mexico and 3 percent in Nevada, which Bush won by just 4 percentage points in 2000.

Increasing Badnarik's impact, according to Tierney: "Unlike Mr. Nader, Mr. Badnarik is on the ballot of every battleground state except New Hampshire."

Nader will be absent from the ballot in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oregon, Missouri and other key states, prompting many analysts to predict that Badnarik will have a bigger impact on Bush than Nader will have on Democrat John Kerry.

In an attempt to attract votes from fiscal conservatives, the Libertarian Party has launched an advertising blitz on the conservative Fox News Channel -- a campaign that is "aimed directly at Mr. Bush's Republican base," notes the Times article.

Responds Joseph Seehusen, executive director of the Libertarian Party: "Fiscal conservatives aren't abandoning the Republican Party; the Republican Party has abandoned fiscal conservatives. Bush has fattened up the government far more in percentage terms than Bill Clinton did, and responsible voters don't want to reward that behavior. So they're sending a message by voting Libertarian."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: badnarik; biggovernmentbush; hugegovernmentbush; libertarianizethegop; loosertatians; thirdparty
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To: freedom44

There are MANY Libertarians in Arkansas - Maybe it is time that the republican party gets back to its roots and quit acting like a bunch of prima-donna democrats with thirsty wallets.

I asked for some Bush yard signs from the republican party hqtrs here in Hot Springs, and the head(?) of the republican womens tea party simply asked me HOW MUCH DID I DONATE?!! And REFUSED to give me any yard sign stating they were reserved for donors only!

I was the ONLY pro-Bush demontrator that went against the leftist demonstrators during Vice-President Cheney's visit here ---- at this rate, it is MY LAST!

Perhaps it is time to bring out the true reason for the SECOND AMENDMENT to our Constitution - to FREE ourselves from tyrannical rulers.


21 posted on 10/29/2004 8:58:25 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; MJY1288

It is my understanding that the man who wrote the "constitution" for the Libertarian Party and has written many books on it is endorsing and voting for George W. Bush this year.

That's what Neal Boortz said.


22 posted on 10/29/2004 8:58:35 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: freedom44

Bad bad Leroy Badnarik. (HA HA)


23 posted on 10/29/2004 8:59:01 PM PDT by conservaDave
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To: FlipWilson

Doesn't matter what they do, say, or the motivations thereof.

EVERONE knows the Slimes is in the tank for sKerry.

The base is motivated, and the weekend ad blitz will get some of the soft support for Bush to the polls.

Also, up to 20% of the votes are already cast - some estimates are that Bush has a 15 point lead in early voting.


24 posted on 10/29/2004 8:59:28 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: The South Texan

Right, open borders for Osama.


25 posted on 10/29/2004 8:59:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: freedom44

Panic has turned to fantasizing over on the far left...


26 posted on 10/29/2004 9:00:02 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against "global testing.")
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To: Callahan
I agree with many Libertarian ideas (save the national party's nutty foreign policy)

Yeah, same here. They certainly have a valid point about fiscal conservatism. I like pretty much everything from the Cato Institute except their foreign policy stuff. However, anyone dumb enough to actually vote Libertarian should be institutionalized.

I think the real circus will be about 2008 or 2012 when the social cons and fundivangelists start throwing fits when they can't impose every element of their views on Republican candidates and start running really serious Third Party campaigns..likely leading to Democrat victories.

Feel free to bring up the above prediction in 8 years. I hope I turn out to be horribly wrong :-).

27 posted on 10/29/2004 9:00:26 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: AHerald
I bet more voters would guess that Badnarik was some type of Eastern Euorpean pastry than a presidential candidate.

Or a violent Philadelphia Eagles Linebacker...

28 posted on 10/29/2004 9:01:09 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: freedom44
I voted Losertarian in the last congressional election 'cause there was no republican running. The current Losertarians are stranger than the Greens and the french combined.
29 posted on 10/29/2004 9:01:09 PM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: freedom44

30 posted on 10/29/2004 9:02:29 PM PDT by Petronski (A Monday morning quarterback has never led any team to victory.)
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To: Strategerist
Or a violent Philadelphia Eagles Linebacker...

LOL - Your line is better!

31 posted on 10/29/2004 9:03:17 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be what you is, cuz if you be what you ain't, then you ain't what you is.")
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To: Howlin

That's correct! In fact, he has released a memo endorsing President Bush


32 posted on 10/29/2004 9:03:42 PM PDT by MJY1288 (A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK HAS NEVER LED ANY TEAM TO VICTORY)
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To: freedom44
In an attempt to attract votes from fiscal conservatives, the Libertarian Party has launched an advertising blitz on the conservative Fox News Channel -- a campaign that is "aimed directly at Mr. Bush's Republican base," notes the Times article.

It is truly bizarre to see one party try to destroy another party with which it AGREES 90% of the time--to replace it with a party with which it DISAGREES 90% of the time, thus undermining everything Libertarians claim to hold dear.

Some might call this "insanity".

33 posted on 10/29/2004 9:03:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: freedom44

Well if they interview him after he robs Bush of the election I just hope he is wearing a name tag so we can tell who he is and spot him.


34 posted on 10/29/2004 9:04:57 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: steplock

"I asked for some Bush yard signs from the republican party hqtrs here in Hot Springs, and the head(?) of the republican womens tea party simply asked me HOW MUCH DID I DONATE?!! And REFUSED to give me any yard sign stating they were reserved for donors only!"

The horror. Imagine thousands of dims lining up at GOP headquarters demanding yard signs so they could throw them in the trash. This response alone tells me too many libertarians have the street acumen of a roadkill.


35 posted on 10/29/2004 9:06:13 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: montag813

The NYSlimes just called the election for Bush.


36 posted on 10/29/2004 9:06:16 PM PDT by rlbedfor
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To: aft_lizard

I one of the LP ads also, it looked like one of those really bad local car dealership ads.


37 posted on 10/29/2004 9:09:09 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: freedom44
New York Times analysis: [Libertarian] Badnarik's impact could be 'critical'

The title should read:

The NYT Prays ('Wishes.' Because they don't believe in God at the NYT) Badnarik Will Have a Critical Impact on the President

5.56mm

38 posted on 10/29/2004 9:09:44 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: The South Texan
While I agree with Libertarians much more than the with the Rats, they would be just as bad on the war on terror if not worse than the Rats.

Unfortunately, being a Libertarian, this is true. This is the one issue on their platform that I totally oppose. I think the Libertarian party needs to seriously revisit the issue of National Security and Foreign Policy and not be so apt to try to drive against the flow of popular conservative opinion in this country. If the party were to change it's position it could very well see a much more impressive membership growth in the coming years.
39 posted on 10/29/2004 9:10:41 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: freedom44

wishful thinking by the media organ of the kerry campaign, the NYT.


40 posted on 10/29/2004 9:11:53 PM PDT by smonk
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