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I believe that since the abolition of slavery, abortion is the single greatest tragedy in American history.
1 posted on 10/28/2004 7:17:25 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Agreed.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 7:19:38 PM PDT by tdewey10 (The democratic party is on the verge of starting a new civil war.)
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To: wagglebee

Agreed.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 7:19:41 PM PDT by tdewey10 (The democratic party is on the verge of starting a new civil war.)
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To: wagglebee

Abortion is morally wrong, but some people justify doing it, and i have no right to forbid them. Their morality must comes from their faith and their hearts, and not mine.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 7:19:43 PM PDT by philosofy123
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To: wagglebee

Always bad.


5 posted on 10/28/2004 7:21:06 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: wagglebee

Absolutely the greatest tragedy in American history. Hopefully we will see it abolished just like slavery.


11 posted on 10/28/2004 7:28:11 PM PDT by bushinohio
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I like this news. I'm disgusted that Bush hasn't distinguished himself from John Kerry AT LEAST regarding partial birth abortion!

I'm sorry, but GWB should at least mention PBA when contrasting himself against Kerry in ad campaigns. I can see it now... Bush says: "Another major difference between my opponent and me is that John Kerry thinks its fine to kill a defensless baby in the process of being born. I DO NOT. John Kerry voted FOR partial birth abortion. I NEVER WILL."
12 posted on 10/28/2004 7:29:37 PM PDT by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; Salvation; NYer; Mr. Silverback; Aquinasfan

Life Ping.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 7:29:47 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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I would argue that abortion is the single greatest tragedy in HUMAN history.

People always wonder why the german people didn't do something to stop the nazi's from killing the jews...

While they stand idlely by and watch 10's of millions of childern be slaughtered...

The doctors, judges, and politicians responsible for this crime against humanity should be hunted to the ends of the earth and brought to justice even if it takes 100 years.


16 posted on 10/28/2004 7:33:53 PM PDT by Nyboe
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I remember the horror I felt when I studied ancient history in school and learned that the Greeks and Romans sometimes exposed unwanted babies, and that Baal-worshippers cruelly sacrificed their children to Baal.

The Greeks, at least, refrained from actually murdering their babies. If the gods willed it, exposed babies at least had a chance of survival.

As for the poll, much depends on the questions asked. The MSM usually ask something like, "Do you believe that a woman should have a constitutional right to choose?" Somehow that sounds different from a question that actually includes the word "abortion," which is why the MSM almost always avoids the word, except when they label pro-lifers as "anti-abortionists."


19 posted on 10/28/2004 7:44:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Most abortions are people who are sexually loose, who have no sense of chastity. Mostly, sexually active teens and mistresses. Pre-marital sex and extramarital affairs is why abortion is so common. We need to teach kids abstinence and always have advocated it.


22 posted on 10/28/2004 8:00:03 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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Even slavery wasn't as bad --- you might have owned the labor of the slave -- but you did not have a right to exterminate him, you could not end his life just because you no longer found him convenient or because you decided to have a slave and then changed your mind. A slave could be given his freedom later on, all hope could not really be taken away --- something a dead baby can never have.


23 posted on 10/28/2004 8:06:06 PM PDT by FITZ
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the more you know about abortion..the less you like it. I'm amazed that more Black Americans are not more concerned. Over a million Black Americans a year are denied the right to life.

I know a woman who lives with tremendous guilt because of an abortion she had. She now has one son and wonders if the baby she aborted would have been like him because she adores the ground this kid walks on.

In the research I've seen, a large percentage of women who have had abortions say they would not do it over again if they knew what they knew now.

Yes, it is a personal issue but it is so important that young women.. particularly those under 16...get good counseling, preferably from parents, before they take that step.

by the way, if you know of anyone using the RU486 pill, they should be aware that there have been a number of deaths associated with it and ongoing research is showing a substantially higher percentage of birth defects and deformity in subsequent pregnancies. One in 100 women require a transfusion because of the enormous blood loss associated with this pill...and the most horrifying part is that planned parenthood will prescribe this pill right over the phone without proper counseling.


25 posted on 10/28/2004 8:20:30 PM PDT by JimB in Venice
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To: wagglebee
I agree with you
and I think Alan Keyes has been one of the biggest individual heroes
in the anti-abortion movement.

Alan's image of abortionists equal with slave traders is so dead on.

Those who threw slaves overboard for convenience sake because they were not people are the same as the baby murderers.

28 posted on 10/28/2004 8:39:20 PM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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Two things strike me, first that approximately 23% of American are ghouls, who think abortion is 'almost always a good thing', and second that the poll-takers didn't provide an option 'is always a bad thing'.

It strikes me that even folks who don't get it and support 'abortion rights' should think abortion is always a bad thing, and justify it on the basis that some alternative is worse, certainly their rhetoric takes that position, by claiming that carrying and giving birth to a child who is the product of rape or incest or will live a short life in pain because of some genetic defect; or making the tough decision to either change your life to take care of a child, or carry him or her to term and give the child up for adoption is worse than killing the child.

Killing is always a bad thing, but indeed it is sometimes less bad than the alternative. (The Orthodox penance all homocides, even justified homocides in self-defense, defense of family, or in war, but lightly compared to the life-long excommunication with reception of the Holy Mysteries on the deathbed only which is the penance for murder--St. Basil's canons provide for a 3 year excommunication for justiable homicides, though long excommunications are no longer the norm.)

I know that Orthodox Jews regard the circumstances in which carrying the child will result in the death of the mother as the only circumstance under which abortion is permissible. I can see a Christian argument for a smilar position, though the woman who refuses, trusting in God, and dies trying to carry the child surely is welcomed with a martyr's crown in heaven. But even in those circumstances it is evil and a matter for penance.

29 posted on 10/28/2004 8:40:36 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: wagglebee

agreed


32 posted on 10/28/2004 8:48:03 PM PDT by Smogger
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"I believe that since the abolition of slavery, abortion is the single greatest tragedy in American history. Agreed AND the country has never been more divided since before the Civil War!
34 posted on 10/28/2004 8:55:52 PM PDT by Henchman (Who gave KERRY entré to the VC @ Paris? T.Kennedy? McGovern? ...some"high" low D'rat probably)
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instead of using bad/good, i wonder if the results would be different if they used Right/wrong ?


35 posted on 10/28/2004 9:08:00 PM PDT by stylin19a (It's called GOLF because all the other 4 letter words were taken)
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"Poll: Majority Believe Abortion 'Almost Always Bad'"

I'm expecting to see this headline in tomorrow's New York Times, right next to the "Abortion Linked to Breast Cancer" headline.

[/sarcasm]

36 posted on 10/28/2004 10:24:29 PM PDT by tom h
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/921369/posts
Bringing Good Things to Life (ULTRASOUND)
Citizen magazine ^ | June 2003 | Karla Dial
This is the Stealth Bomber that is going to zoom in under the pro-death crowd's radar and nuke them... once a woman sees what is really in her womb, it ceases to be a "tissue mass" and becomes... a baby.
 Her baby.
 

38 posted on 10/29/2004 2:01:49 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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Abortion is worse. 44 million dead since 1973. The tragedy of slavery doesn't even come close.


39 posted on 10/29/2004 4:27:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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