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You are correct on a philosophical level. I believe that the Almighty himself is offended by gun control, PERIOD!!! But THAT IS NOT the question we are debating. The question is -- did the BOR apply to the states before the inc. process? No. It did not. Would I have liked it to? With God as my witness, YES! I can still remember praying for the..., well, let's just say praying for bad things for Gov. Wilder when he had the balls to tell me that I could only buy X number of guns per month. Who, exactly, gave that filthy piece of monkey vomit such a right? Philosophically, of course, nobody did. Legally, however, it was quite constitutional. Just to let you know, whenever I want to tell somebody just how magnificent and great this country was at one time, I show them the old newspaper ad (1931)proving that at one time in this country YOU COULD BUY A GODDAM, F'ING MACHINE GUN THROUGH THE MAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy sweet, mother of Jesus! What does that tell you about our people and our government? I mourn for those days.

Yes, a Thompson is a great equalizer. In fact, its superior firepower will tilt the battleground in favor of the innocent. Sounds reasonable to me, as it should be a hands down win, considering that the life of an innocent is worth more than a killer's.

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"The question is -- did the BOR apply to the states before the inc. process? No. It did not."

Well, if the federal gummint acknowledged and recognized that the people had a pre-existing right to keep and bear arms, the application of Article VI, para 2, forces the states to recognize the same right. Why and how? Because anything that is in state constitutions and judges opinions to the contrary are null and void by virtue of a state's ratification of the Federal Constitution. And that was in effect from Day One. And of course, the Second Amendment keeps Congress from violating the right as well. Heh.

So what to do?

I guess we survive the best we can. Some will survive better than others, for they obey a higher law, I suspect. The law of survival. Sometimes it's a jungle out there.

Note that I'm not all that interested in having an arsenal full of guns. One for each reason and season is suffient for me, unless I wanted to deal in guns.

From Article I, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power...

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

The arming of the Militia is a power of Congress, if it so chooses.

In the matter of arming citizens, the role of States is defined by the underlined portion. IOW, the States have no authority to override a power delegated to Congress.