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Bias & Arrogance At The New York Times (The Point)
News Central (c/o Sinclair Broadcasting) ^ | Oct 28, 2004 | Mark Hyman

Posted on 10/28/2004 4:17:01 PM PDT by Angry Republican

"Will America's Veterans Please Shut Up?" That's the sentiments expressed by the New York Times.

In a conversation I had with editorial writer Andrew Rosenthal during the recent brouhaha over John Kerry's snub of American POWs, Rosenthal offered a perspective of how the paper views America's servicemen and women.

"I'm sick of hearing about Vietnam," he offered. Rosenthal made it clear that the New York Times didn't deem it newsworthy that 13 American POWs including two Medal of Honor winners - who collectively suffered nearly 84 years of horrific abuse and unspeakable torture ended 31 years of self-imposed silence in order to set the record straight. These American icons rebutted Kerry's claims that his 1971 Senate testimony accusing American servicemen of "war crimes" committed on "a day-to-day basis" harmed no one. Not true, they say, as Kerry's testimony was used by their Communist captors. Rosenthal dismissed their torture as no big deal. He also admitted that the Times had not covered the POWs nor would it underscoring that the paper's editorial policy drives the paper's news reporting.

Now the New York Times can show all the disdain it wants toward our military veterans. That's the paper's right. They can hate whomever they want.

But we find it odd, considering the business it claims to be in. Using the First Amendment to report news may only entail a daily subway commute for Rosenthal and his liberal friends, but it didn't come without the terrible sacrifice of millions of servicemen and women sacrifice that Rosenthal arrogantly dismissed when he stated, "The New York Times has done more to support the First Amendment than any other group." I think the two million American war dead and wounded in the 20th century alone tell a different story.

But then again, Rosenthal and his elitist friends don't care about American troops as he made so abundantly clear. "I'm sick of what the right-wing fanatics are doing to this war. It's the same thing they did to Vietnam," Rosenthal told me. His chief complaint? That this nation's sons and daughters who put on the military uniform would dare to hold accountable people like John Kerry who testified before Congress that their fathers who served before them were war criminals.

I support Rosenthal's and the New York Times' First Amendment rights to write what they want no matter how ugly the sentiment. It just saddens me that when he and his arrogant friends ride home tonight in the comfort of a New York City subway car that they cannot at least give a little thanks to the brave servicemen and women who made the ultimate sacrifice. But then that's not the way of the New York Times.

You can share your views with the New York Times at (212) 556-1234.

And that's the Point.

I'm Mark Hyman.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: nytimes; rosenthal; veterans; vietnam
What upsets me is that I've seen stickers that say "Veterans for Kerry" in spite of the fact that sKerry screwed over many fellow vets who served alongside him.
1 posted on 10/28/2004 4:17:02 PM PDT by Angry Republican
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To: Angry Republican

"What upsets me is that I've seen stickers that say "Veterans for Kerry" in spite of the fact that sKerry screwed over many fellow vets who served alongside him."


I'm not a vet and have never claimed to be, but I have a feeling I could get as many of those stickers as I wanted.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 4:18:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: Angry Republican
Ah, isn't this the guy that totally caved on airing Stolen Honor?
3 posted on 10/28/2004 4:20:05 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"I'm sick of hearing about Vietnam," he offered. Rosenthal made it clear that the New York Times didn't deem it newsworthy that 13 American POWs including two Medal of Honor winners - who collectively suffered nearly 84 years of horrific abuse and unspeakable torture ended 31 years of self-imposed silence in order to set the record straight. These American icons rebutted Kerry's claims that his 1971 Senate testimony accusing American servicemen of "war crimes" committed on "a day-to-day basis" harmed no one. Not true, they say, as Kerry's testimony was used by their Communist captors. Rosenthal dismissed their torture as no big deal. He also admitted that the Times had not covered the POWs nor would it underscoring that the paper's editorial policy drives the paper's news reporting.

Im speechless
4 posted on 10/28/2004 4:20:34 PM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: Angry Republican

There are those who can't believe the enemy is amoung us:
LET THEM READ THE NEW YORK TIMES!


5 posted on 10/28/2004 4:24:44 PM PDT by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: jennyjenny

I forget who said it originally, but NO ONE has protected our 1st Amendment rights more than the US Soldier. All the NYT does is give us reasons to curb the 1st Amendment, not that we should.

But a news organization that abdicates it's responsibility to report the unbiased truth ought not to be immune from prosecution, as is mostly the case today. 1960's court decision that said newpapers have to show malice and forethought before being convicted of libel needs to be moderated for current times. This judge probably had no idea that newspapers would, due to his ruling, take that as license to print whatever they want, destroy whomever the wish, and promulgate any lie that serves their ideology.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 4:27:06 PM PDT by wvobiwan (Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue!)
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To: boxerblues

Me too. The NYT is scum. But never fear, over the last 10 years the NYT has marginalized itself - this will continue. Sometime in the next decade or two the NYT will be indistinguishable from the National Enquirer.


7 posted on 10/28/2004 4:29:43 PM PDT by wvobiwan (Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue!)
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The National Enquirer has more credibility
8 posted on 10/28/2004 4:34:39 PM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: wvobiwan

Sometime in the next decade or two the NYT will be indistinguishable from the National Enquirer.


Think you'll find they've already done that.


9 posted on 10/28/2004 4:37:52 PM PDT by conshack
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To: boxerblues
The National Enquirer has more credibility

Sad, isn't it?

10 posted on 10/28/2004 4:39:37 PM PDT by Angry Republican (“If in four years I don’t do what I say I’m going to do, then kick me out." -Melvin Bilal (R-MD))
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To: Angry Republican
I swear this country is in the grip of a Media coup d’état.
11 posted on 10/28/2004 4:45:11 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless President GWB and our Brave Troops)
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To: Angry Republican
But then again, Rosenthal and his elitist friends don't care about American troops as he made so abundantly clear. "I'm sick of what the right-wing fanatics are doing to this war

Don't worry Rosenthal. Bill Clinton is going to grab a rifle and crawl into a ditch to fight for Israel.

12 posted on 10/28/2004 5:11:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Angry Republican

There is a NYT reporter on Hardball right now. When questioned about retracting the article about the missing explosives, he just smirked and said they reported the facts as they knew them at press time and there would be no retraction.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 5:21:37 PM PDT by oldbrowser (seared...........SEARED)
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To: Angry Republican

does ANYONE believe Rosenthal rides the subway ?????????
he's totally into the Limousine Lib thing as are all the poobahs at NYT.


14 posted on 10/28/2004 5:28:19 PM PDT by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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when he and his arrogant friends ride home tonight in the comfort of a New York City subway car

I doubt that Rosenthal has ever been in a subway. And second, I don't think the author has been either, if he thinks it represents "comfort."

15 posted on 10/28/2004 5:34:02 PM PDT by speedy
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To: Angry Republican
"I'm sick of hearing about Vietnam,"

Unless of course Kerry brings it up, which he does constantly to pretend he is some kind of war hero.

16 posted on 10/28/2004 5:38:13 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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