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Russia Tied to Iraq's Missing Arms- what we have on Al QaQaa to date
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Posted on 10/28/2004 4:01:05 AM PDT by backhoe
Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story.
Here's a fast grab of all the links & relevant commentary I have so far:
Did Russia Help Iraq Dispose of Weapons?
Read the commentary here:
624 comments As I posted on an earlier thread, the very notion that this isn't just the musings of unnamed officials, but comes from named individuals who are rather high in the Adminstration shows how much that the Admin think this stuff is legit. And they were waiting for the right time to drop this one on the Kerry campaign, which should have known better.
MSNBC BREAKING NEWS: RUSSIANS MOVED EXPLOSIVES (Saw it on MSNBC Scarborough Country) This may not destroy Kerry, but it sure can't help. This deal could change the demographics of the entire world. The leftist will never recover from this if Russia actually removed Iraq's WMD's before we invaded. Putin had a choice... Leave them their and explain why Russian weapons killed thousands of our troops, or go in and remove them and explain later why he did it to save lives.
I found one link to go with these which is to day by day battles in Iraq, so things can be put into context as to what was happening in all that area during that time. It's like people forget that there was a WAR going on, attacks against our military taking place and our guys fighting on their way to Bagdad. How exactly did these tons of weapons get 'taken' with all that happening..air strikes etc.?
War Time Line
The media plays 'trick or treat' The media are too busy
repackaging old Iraq news in an October offensive against President George W. Bush's reelection to investigate truly startling
evidence unearthed this week that the Communist Party may have been directing John Kerry's anti-war activities in the early 1970s
I've read the Kerry ad. It may be built on deceptions and half truths but it's an effective ad and it will require not rebutting but refutation.
President Bush needs to make a statement; have a press conference - something straight from the President himself and NOW. . .stop the lies. . .stop the misinformation. . .stop the Kerry camp in it's tracks. . .NOW; by stepping up and out. . .taking advantage of his position as President so speak directly to the people. He should have a 'fireside' everynight. . .or Press conference every day. . .
NBC Video vs. Kerry Campaign Video... ~4:41pm~ EST
SEEMS INCREDIBLE THAT NEARLY 24 HOURS AFTER NYTIMES STORY IS BLOWN AWAY - JOHN KERRY CONTINUES TO USE IT ON THE TRAIL: The Daily Recycler has done everyone in the blogosphere a tremendous service by editing together Kerry's specific statements and the actual truth from NBC News. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE (1:27), LISTEN HERE TO THE 3 HOUR EXPOSE we did on air today.
YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM] --
Question seems to be IS THIS THEIR BEST SHOT??
I'm confident it won't be their last.
NYTrogate--
As I said yesterday, Joe Lockhart on the Kerry-Edwards conference call yesterday said the missing explosives: "Central issue for the rest of the campaign."
This is their October Surprise and they have nothing else but vote fraud. They have to go with this story no matter if it is a lie or not. They have nothing else. Desperation has set in for the Dems and it is blowing up in their face.
We in the "New Media" need to keep telling everyone we know that this story is a "LIE" and Kerry is a liar as well as MSM
Edwards rips Bush for lost Iraq explosives (Will Edwards apologize now?) I have been contacting the media sources that are continuing the missing explosives lie trying to pressure them to issue retractions and to get Kerry Campaign people to comment on the latest information about this story that they have been using as a political attack against President Bush. I urge you all to do the same.
Why don't they just call it the Oct 25th Surprise, since they have a new one everday.
This is not the real October surprise- it's too early for the critical hit; there's a whole week for the story to be shot at and sunk - The real attack comes at the end of week and is directed at Bush's character, a follow-up to the Kitty Kelly and Dan Rather types of attack.
THE DITTOCAM IS ON! Live Rush Thread Rush is ripping CBS, NYT, and Kerry a new one. (LOVING IT) I have a feeling that this is going to hurt CBS and Kerry in the long run. I am glad that NBC came forward with their
footage showing the explosives were moved before we took Baghdad. You would think that CBS and Dan Rather would have learned their lesson after Memo-gate-- In a lot of workplaces today (and for the next week) people are fixating on the election. It's topic #1 in conversations.
So even if the MSM doesn't get on it, those of us of the PJ platoons can burn peoples ears off at work about it.
"what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"
I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-
"Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."
Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.
Dear God these people at CBS and in the MSM are desperate to bring down a sitting POTUS...at any cost. I suspect anything and everything reported as NEWS for the last half century from the MSM...
Kerry wants answers on missing explosives
"Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"
Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:
What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.
I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:01:05 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Wow. You are a treasure! Thanks!
And they were waiting for the right time to drop this one on the Kerry campaign, which should have known better.
Bwah hah hah hah hah....
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:02:49 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: backhoe
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:04:04 AM PDT
by
Rocko
(The BoSox win, the Botox® loses.)
To: backhoe
JFKerry exposed - weapon of mass deception.
To: backhoe
A great compilation of links. I do not know how you do it; I'm still trying to get caught up and you made it easier, backhoe.
President Bush needs to make a statement; NOW or Press conference every day. . .
Be careful; the thread police were out last night looking for any hint of criticism of the president. Normally credible freepers have gone round the bend on anyone who thinks the administration did respond quickly enough.
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:07:11 AM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
To: backhoe
It sounds like a fight between the New Media and same tired old MSM. My money is on the New Media after all how can the MSM acknowledge a problem when they don't know one exist (BACK AT YOU KERRY!)
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:08:57 AM PDT
by
tobyhill
(The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
To: backhoe
You are so great! Great thread!
To: backhoe
Will Russia admit to removing the cache to Syria?
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:17:33 AM PDT
by
Dallas59
("A bad peace is even worse than war" -Taticus)
To: mewzilla
Thanks, mewzilla-- besides going crazy trying to follow all this stuff, I'm trying to get Mrs. B on a plane to Texas this AM... back ASAP!
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:19:26 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
To: tobyhill
It sounds like a fight between the New Media and same tired old MSM. My money is on the New Media after all how can the MSM acknowledge a problem when they don't know one exist (BACK AT YOU KERRY!)The damage has been done. Unless the old media reports that these explosives were NOT there when we got there the damage has been done. It's sick but true. They are evil. Putin must speak up for Bush!
Unfortunately too many people (voters) will be influenced by the disinformation that they have already received! It's sad but true.
The old media must step up and do the right thing now, tell the WHOLE story. What are the chances of that?
This country is a sick place if a sleazy human like Kerry can get elected!!!
To: beyond the sea
The old media must step up and do the right thing now, tell the WHOLE story. What are the chances of that? The sun will rise in the north before the MSM EVER does the right thing.
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:22:51 AM PDT
by
Pete'sWife
(Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
To: backhoe
WOW! Thanks to you for doing all this work- excellent job!
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:28:05 AM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Republican for Red Sox!)
To: backhoe
Ping for later read. Thanks backhoe.
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:35:52 AM PDT
by
planekT
To: Peach
Hi, Peach- it took me a minute to get this:
President Bush needs to make a statement; NOW or Press conference every day. . .
-that's a quote from within the linked article.
My own opinion is the timing could not be better- the Administration has played it perfectly. The Kerry camp won't have time to counter this effectively- if a counter exists, which I cannot envision.
If this doesn't effectively "nuke" the Kerry camp, the UN, and a few others, nothing will. I think "the music's over- turn out the lights."
( The Doors )
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:41:35 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
To: planekT; SE Mom
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:42:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
To: beyond the sea
The MSM has been constantly losing market shares and will continue to lose until they change their tune. Now is a good time for them to start. Sometimes I think the MSM wants Kerry to be elected so another 911 happens then they can sell more tabloid.
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:43:49 AM PDT
by
tobyhill
(The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
To: Fred Nerks
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:45:04 AM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. See FRED NERKS for link)
To: backhoe
Oh, good. I'm glad you didn't make the statement that the president needs to have a press conference now because the thread police would be after you. And we need you!
I didn't think I could possibly get caught up on all the info about this matter but with one stop shopping, I can.
All thanks to your hard work!
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:45:39 AM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
To: Peach
Thanks for the kind words- I had all this stuff saved in an email that I kept adding to other posts, to provide background information, and it just occurred to me ( duh! ) that if I placed it as a standalone post, it would be more accessable.
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:50:15 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
To: backhoe
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posted on
10/28/2004 4:52:35 AM PDT
by
listenhillary
(We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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