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Russia Tied to Iraq's Missing Arms- what we have on Al QaQaa to date
various FR links | 10-28-04 | t

Posted on 10/28/2004 4:01:05 AM PDT by backhoe

Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story.
 
Here's a fast grab of all the links & relevant commentary I have so far:
 
 Bill Gertz: Russia Tied to Iraq's Missing Arms
 http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008341.php
Did Russia Help Iraq Dispose of Weapons?
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php
Read the commentary here:
 624 comments   As I posted on an earlier thread, the very notion that this isn't just the musings of unnamed officials, but comes from named individuals who are rather high in the Adminstration shows how much that the Admin think this stuff is legit. And they were waiting for the right time to drop this one on the Kerry campaign, which should have known better.
 
 THE MYTH OF THE 'MISSING EXPLOSIVES': A SHAMELESS LIE  I think this is the best focus... Much of this debate is confusing, but the argument that the UN is trying to influence our election with days remaining certainly turns heads.
 
 Kerry's UN Screwed Up Al-Qaqaa (Iraq weapons - explosives)("MUST READ: Full of FACTS)
 
 MSNBC BREAKING NEWS: RUSSIANS MOVED EXPLOSIVES (Saw it on MSNBC Scarborough Country)  This may not destroy Kerry, but it sure can't help.  This deal could change the demographics of the entire world. The leftist will never recover from this if Russia actually removed Iraq's WMD's before we invaded. Putin had a choice... Leave them their and explain why Russian weapons killed thousands of our troops, or go in and remove them and explain later why he did it to save lives.
 DRUDGE: Russia tied to Iraq´s missing arms; Pentagon: Weaponry relocated before war
 I found one link to go with these which is to day by day battles in Iraq, so things can be put into context as to what was happening in all that area during that time. It's like people forget that there was a WAR going on, attacks against our military taking place and our guys fighting on their way to Bagdad. How exactly did these tons of weapons get 'taken' with all that happening..air strikes etc.? War Time Line
 
101st Airborne Vet: 'No Way' Explosives Were at Al Qaqaa
 
 Kerry's October Surprise, becomes his October demise
 
 Kerry is running with "missing explosives" lie for his final push
 
  Deqonstruqting Qaqaagate, take 2
 
  PLN Exclusive - IAEA Not Contrite, US Admin “livid" Over Apparent Effort To Influence US Election
 
 Soldier At Al Qa Qaa Coming On Hannity Radio Show
 
  NY Times Flashback: Paper Reported Saddam Transferred High Explosives
 
 BREAKING: Satellite images reveal heavy truck activity at Al QaQaa prior to Iraq war Here are some satellite images of Al Qa Qaa taken Oct 2001.Global Security: Al Qa Qaa
 The libs on San Francisco talk radio are either not talking about this or backpedaling. They are starting to worry that Kerry spoke too soon, and this could turn into a big tactical mistake.And that was before this little gem came out.
 
 Bush addresses CBS / NYT / Kerry October (explosives) surprise in PA
 
 The media plays 'trick or treat'  The media are too busy repackaging old Iraq news in an October offensive against President George W. Bush's reelection to investigate truly startling evidence unearthed this week that the Communist Party may have been directing John Kerry's anti-war activities in the early 1970s
 
  Feb. 2003 UN Report: Saddam Moving Explosives From Al-Qaqaa
 
 Urgent Warning on Iraqi Cache Issued in 1995
 
  Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
 CBS eyed '60 Minutes' Bush bombshell
 
 NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military
 
Media Shamelessly Shilling for Kerry and Kerry Brazenly Lying
 
 
Invitation to a Defrauding (links CBS's 2003 article : U.S. Searches 'Suspicious' Iraqi Site
 
 Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News
 
 Kerry Ad Promoting LIES about Missing Explosives Is LIVE 
 
 Be prepared [call to action on Kerry ad based on explosive lies]
 I've read the Kerry ad. It may be built on deceptions and half truths but it's an effective ad and it will require not rebutting but refutation.
 President Bush needs to make a statement; have a press conference - something straight from the President himself and NOW. . .stop the lies. . .stop the misinformation. . .stop the Kerry camp in it's tracks. . .NOW; by stepping up and out. . .taking advantage of his position as President so speak directly to the people. He should have a 'fireside' everynight. . .or Press conference every day. . .
 NBC Video vs. Kerry Campaign Video... ~4:41pm~ EST
SEEMS INCREDIBLE THAT NEARLY 24 HOURS AFTER NYTIMES STORY IS BLOWN AWAY - JOHN KERRY CONTINUES TO USE IT ON THE TRAIL: The Daily Recycler has done everyone in the blogosphere a tremendous service by editing together Kerry's specific statements and the actual truth from NBC News. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE (1:27), LISTEN HERE TO THE 3 HOUR EXPOSE we did on air today.
 
 **CALLING ALL 101st AIRBORNE MEMBERS, AIRTIME TO TELL YOUR STORY**
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM] --
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257884/posts
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT
 
 Toronto Star continues to lead with false weapons report
 
 Hanoi Kerry attacks 101st Airborne in "Ammogate" smear ad.
 
 
 60 MINS PLANNED BUSH MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY FOR ELECTION EVE  "Do they have something else to spring on us on Thursday? That's supposed to be the time to have the maximum impact on the election...that's when the DUI story was released in 2000."
 Question seems to be IS THIS THEIR BEST SHOT?? I'm confident it won't be their last.
 
Missing Explosives Story Missing Facts
NYTrogate--
  http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/nytrogate.html
 
 

Rush just read a CNN story from 1/2003 "Al Aqaa a WMD site"...anyone have a link (vanity)
  The Iraqi explosives story CBS and the New York Times ran yesterday is a fraud. These weapons were not there when US troops went to this site in 2003. The IAEA and its head, the anti-American Mohammed El Baradei, leaked a false letter on this issue to the media to embarrass the Bush administration.  Here you go:

Link to CNN Story

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/24/sprj.irq.inspections/index.html

Here is a link to DRUDGE story on it:

Link to DRUDGE story

 Fox also had an article about Qa Qaa Site:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html

 
 UN Report in 2003 notes Iraq "lost" HMX & converted remaining HMX stocks into "industrial explosive"  Uh oh, looks like the MSM got caught with it's pants down again.
 
 
 DRUDGE: Kerry/Edwards Campaign Preparing Campaign Ad On Missing Explosives 

As I said yesterday, Joe Lockhart on the Kerry-Edwards conference call yesterday said the missing explosives: "Central issue for the rest of the campaign."

This is their October Surprise and they have nothing else but vote fraud. They have to go with this story no matter if it is a lie or not. They have nothing else. Desperation has set in for the Dems and it is blowing up in their face.

We in the "New Media" need to keep telling everyone we know that this story is a "LIE" and Kerry is a liar as well as MSM

 Edwards rips Bush for lost Iraq explosives (Will Edwards apologize now?)  I have been contacting the media sources that are continuing the missing explosives lie trying to pressure them to issue retractions and to get Kerry Campaign people to comment on the latest information about this story that they have been using as a political attack against President Bush. I urge you all to do the same.
 
 
 Why don't they just call it the Oct 25th Surprise, since they have a new one everday.
 This is not the real October surprise- it's too early for the critical hit; there's a whole week for the story to be shot at and sunk - The real attack comes at the end of week and is directed at Bush's character, a follow-up to the Kitty Kelly and Dan Rather types of attack.
 
  THE DITTOCAM IS ON! Live Rush Thread   Rush is ripping CBS, NYT, and Kerry a new one. (LOVING IT)  
I have a feeling that this is going to hurt CBS and Kerry in the long run. I am glad that NBC came forward with their footage showing the explosives were moved before we took Baghdad. You would think that CBS and Dan Rather would have learned their lesson after Memo-gate-- In a lot of workplaces today (and for the next week) people are fixating on the election. It's topic #1 in conversations. So even if the MSM doesn't get on it, those of us of the PJ platoons can burn peoples ears off at work about it.
 
 
 "what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"
I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-
 
 "Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."
Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.
 
 
 
 Drudge now reporting Iraq depot story was shopped to CBS' 60 minutes before reported by NYT   60 Minutes wanted to report this garbage on election eve...
 Dear God these people at CBS and in the MSM are desperate to bring down a sitting POTUS...at any cost. I suspect anything and everything reported as NEWS for the last half century from the MSM...
 
 Kerry wants answers on missing explosives
 It's on the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html I sent a copy to myself, just in case it disappears.
 "Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"
 See page 25 of THE FBI FILES
 More to investigate for the John F. Kerry Timeline.
 Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:
 What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.
 Link
 I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.
 


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1 posted on 10/28/2004 4:01:05 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Wow. You are a treasure! Thanks!

And they were waiting for the right time to drop this one on the Kerry campaign, which should have known better.

Bwah hah hah hah hah....

2 posted on 10/28/2004 4:02:49 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: backhoe

Thanks!


3 posted on 10/28/2004 4:04:04 AM PDT by Rocko (The BoSox win, the Botox® loses.)
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To: backhoe

JFKerry exposed - weapon of mass deception.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 4:04:14 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: backhoe
A great compilation of links. I do not know how you do it; I'm still trying to get caught up and you made it easier, backhoe.

President Bush needs to make a statement; NOW or Press conference every day. . .

Be careful; the thread police were out last night looking for any hint of criticism of the president. Normally credible freepers have gone round the bend on anyone who thinks the administration did respond quickly enough.

5 posted on 10/28/2004 4:07:11 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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To: backhoe
It sounds like a fight between the New Media and same tired old MSM. My money is on the New Media after all how can the MSM acknowledge a problem when they don't know one exist (BACK AT YOU KERRY!)
6 posted on 10/28/2004 4:08:57 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: backhoe

You are so great! Great thread!


7 posted on 10/28/2004 4:13:03 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: backhoe

Will Russia admit to removing the cache to Syria?


8 posted on 10/28/2004 4:17:33 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("A bad peace is even worse than war" -Taticus)
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To: mewzilla

Thanks, mewzilla-- besides going crazy trying to follow all this stuff, I'm trying to get Mrs. B on a plane to Texas this AM... back ASAP!


9 posted on 10/28/2004 4:19:26 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: tobyhill
It sounds like a fight between the New Media and same tired old MSM. My money is on the New Media after all how can the MSM acknowledge a problem when they don't know one exist (BACK AT YOU KERRY!)

The damage has been done. Unless the old media reports that these explosives were NOT there when we got there the damage has been done. It's sick but true. They are evil. Putin must speak up for Bush!

Unfortunately too many people (voters) will be influenced by the disinformation that they have already received! It's sad but true.

The old media must step up and do the right thing now, tell the WHOLE story. What are the chances of that?

This country is a sick place if a sleazy human like Kerry can get elected!!!

10 posted on 10/28/2004 4:20:47 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: beyond the sea
The old media must step up and do the right thing now, tell the WHOLE story. What are the chances of that?

The sun will rise in the north before the MSM EVER does the right thing.

11 posted on 10/28/2004 4:22:51 AM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: backhoe

WOW! Thanks to you for doing all this work- excellent job!


12 posted on 10/28/2004 4:28:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Republican for Red Sox!)
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To: backhoe

Ping for later read. Thanks backhoe.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 4:35:52 AM PDT by planekT
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To: Peach
Hi, Peach- it took me a minute to get this:

President Bush needs to make a statement; NOW or Press conference every day. . .

-that's a quote from within the linked article.

My own opinion is the timing could not be better- the Administration has played it perfectly. The Kerry camp won't have time to counter this effectively- if a counter exists, which I cannot envision.

If this doesn't effectively "nuke" the Kerry camp, the UN, and a few others, nothing will. I think "the music's over- turn out the lights."
( The Doors )

14 posted on 10/28/2004 4:41:35 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: planekT; SE Mom

Thanks for looking.


15 posted on 10/28/2004 4:42:53 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: beyond the sea

The MSM has been constantly losing market shares and will continue to lose until they change their tune. Now is a good time for them to start. Sometimes I think the MSM wants Kerry to be elected so another 911 happens then they can sell more tabloid.


16 posted on 10/28/2004 4:43:49 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Fred Nerks

bookmark


17 posted on 10/28/2004 4:45:04 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. See FRED NERKS for link)
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To: backhoe

Oh, good. I'm glad you didn't make the statement that the president needs to have a press conference now because the thread police would be after you. And we need you!

I didn't think I could possibly get caught up on all the info about this matter but with one stop shopping, I can.

All thanks to your hard work!


18 posted on 10/28/2004 4:45:39 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Peach

Thanks for the kind words- I had all this stuff saved in an email that I kept adding to other posts, to provide background information, and it just occurred to me ( duh! ) that if I placed it as a standalone post, it would be more accessable.


19 posted on 10/28/2004 4:50:15 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe

Bookmark


20 posted on 10/28/2004 4:52:35 AM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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