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IRS: Churches can't pray for Bush victory
Wrld Net Daily ^ | 10-28-04 | Ron Strom

Posted on 10/27/2004 10:50:56 PM PDT by hope

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Thursday, October 28, 2004



TESTING THE FAITH
IRS: Churches can't pray for Bush victory
Ruling says tax-exempt groups prohibited from asking God to intervene


Posted: October 28, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

In a letter of clarification requested by a traveling minister, the Internal Revenue Service has declared people gathered in tax-exempt churches can't pray for President Bush to win the election on Tuesday.

The ruling comes in response to a request by the Christian Defense Coalition, which is in the midst of a 15-day prayer tour through Ohio and Pennsylvania. The Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, director of the organization, had planned to lead in prayer for a Bush victory during evening services in each town. Though he had hoped to hold the services in churches, Mahoney says he has used American Legion halls, hotels and other venues pending a clarification from the IRS.

The American Center for Law and Justice wrote the letter to the IRS on behalf of the Mahoney's group, explaining that the pastor planned to "offer prayer during the evening services in the churches he visits that God grants President Bush four more years as president and that Senator Kerry does not become president."

"This is rank censorship," Mahoney told WND. "If churches felt compelled to pray for Senator Kerry, they should be able to do that, too.

"Now we have the IRS not only limiting what can said behind a pulpit in terms of electioneering, but churches aren't even allowed to pray the dictates of their consciences."

Mahoney said he would consider legal action against the IRS, saying churches that had considered hosting the tour were unable to do so. He also said he considers his First Amendment rights to have been violated.

Reaction to the IRS ruling, Mahoney predicts, will include "massive anger" in the Christian community.

"Our organization, along with the American Center for Law and Justice, is going to make this a major issue," he said.

Mahoney considers the ruling a "much greater leap into censorship" than the prohibition on endorsing candidates from church pulpits.

"You hear people talk about the separation of church and state," he said. "This is a massive violation of the separation of church and state from the standpoint of the government intruding on the private dictates of churches."

Under IRS regulations, churches that are tax-exempt organizations cannot openly advocate for candidates for office and can only use a small percentage of their budgets on political activity.

As WorldNetDaily reported, an concerted effort is under way to get the IRS to crack down on churches that might push certain candidates or parties. In July, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, headed by Barry Lynn, filed a complaint with the IRS against Ronnie Floyd, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Springdale, Ark., accusing him of preaching a sermon promoting President Bush's re-election July 4.

Related stories:

Political snitches monitor sermons

Democrats back church IRS probe


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Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; churches; churchesprayer; gwb2004; irs; patmahoney; persecution; prayer
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To: Myrddin

You seem to be forgetting one of the underlying principles of modern American society - some of us are more equal than others. Don't believe me? Just ask Her Royal Highness Sandra Day O'Connor.


41 posted on 10/27/2004 11:14:54 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: connectthedots

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

THE DIMRATS HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH THIS DOUBLE STANDARD FROM AT LEAST JOHNSON'S YEARS.

Sigh.


42 posted on 10/27/2004 11:15:55 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY! ENERGIZE CONSERVATIVE VOTERS! CHALLENGE REASONABLE LIBERALS W FACTS!)
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To: hope; familyop

This is going way too far. We need to start off the next session of Congress with an email and phone campaign demanding that a law be passed giving [recognizing] churches the freedom of speech.


43 posted on 10/27/2004 11:16:35 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: grey_whiskers

Way I look at it they have two choices-

1) Forego tax exemption and pray anyway.

2) Pray and force these people to take it to court.

Either way, we PRAY.

They can drag us away on knelt knees and clasped hands, but they aren't going to tell me when I can pray, with whom I share that prayer, on what location it is allowed nor the subject of that prayer.


44 posted on 10/27/2004 11:16:47 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: hope
"without tax exempt donations..."

There's a big price for that exemption. Liberty.

45 posted on 10/27/2004 11:17:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Simcha7; MoJo2001

Yo! IRS! Do NOT mess with my Father! You won't like the end result....


46 posted on 10/27/2004 11:17:34 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY and PRAY some more!!!)
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To: robroys woman
Yes that is the wave of the future. BUT the left will go after them too someday if it catches on.

I have always wished I had the money to start a church like that.

47 posted on 10/27/2004 11:18:47 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: hope
...churches can't pray for President Bush to win the election on Tuesday."

The implication being that they CAN pray for sKerry to win???

48 posted on 10/27/2004 11:19:24 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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To: hope
They are going to tell us who we can or cannot pray for??


This stunt will backfire on these JERKS BIG TIME
49 posted on 10/27/2004 11:19:39 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: RedRepublic

Senator "long face", he should marry Sarah Jessica Parker, both are long faced,like horses, their children would probably look like Seattle Slew. Just a little humor,sorry.


50 posted on 10/27/2004 11:19:44 PM PDT by diss-a-lib (God is a comedian, with a audience that refuses to laugh)
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To: hope

We will pray for whatever we wish. The government does not have the option of telling us who or what we can pray about.

Do they remember anything about ......"religious freedom"?


51 posted on 10/27/2004 11:20:18 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: hope
U.S. Constitution: First Amendment

First Amendment - Religion and Expression

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


BTW that stuff about separation of church and state is just another one of those SCOTUS rules which substantially alters the original intent of the First Amendment. Originally it meant that Congress could not interfere with the official religions "established" in some of the states.
52 posted on 10/27/2004 11:21:39 PM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (USA needs "W" for 4 more years)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
We can fight and fight and fight in the courts. Or, we could abolish the IRS.
53 posted on 10/27/2004 11:22:35 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Soul Seeker
Aye.

But if they try to do a dumbass stunt like the ACLU wants, they are playing with fire.

54 posted on 10/27/2004 11:23:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: hope

I will pray for my President and anything else, wherever. I'm sure millions of fellow Christians agree.


55 posted on 10/27/2004 11:25:11 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I know what you're saying, but when it comes down to the IRS telling people what they can pray about, well, that's just plain sKerry.What next?
56 posted on 10/27/2004 11:25:13 PM PDT by hope (The democrats are hellbent on destroying the electoral process.)
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To: Myrddin
Gee, what do we do with all those black churches that invited Kerry to speak from the pulpit? Is the IRS going to pull their tax exempt status too?

Not going to happen, my friend. The rule of breaking the law is: If you're a Democrat, YOU CAN!
57 posted on 10/27/2004 11:25:13 PM PDT by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: hope

IRS: Churches can't pray for Bush victory ... but Satanists can certainly put out a hex for their man Kerry!

The CommieDemoLibs are the Impuritan zealots and brownshirts of our age.


58 posted on 10/27/2004 11:27:09 PM PDT by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: hope

Now I can't be a Christian, and speak my mind,
IRS says I'm out of line.
they've tasted our blood and they want to destroy us,
for we stand in the way of "progress"
... as they see it,
As Marx saw it,
As Stalin saw it,
As Mao saw it,
So we must be made to see it too.
No room for God in our future, and forget about conservatism and truth.
What individual rights? Back to work, proletariat...
Patriotism, oh you must be mistaken;
you mean you support Multiculturalism,
It'll be better for you.
The Supreme Court says so.

The USA, my beloved land,
losing it's soul by the day.
Our courts, our beurocracy, our elites, our "betters",are

Ever so slowly,
Ever so carefully,
Ever so coldly...
building a dictatorship.


59 posted on 10/27/2004 11:29:19 PM PDT by RockAgainsttheLeft04 ("America...F**K YEAH !" -Team America: World Police)
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To: hope
Can a prayer be led in church for a sKerry defeat?
60 posted on 10/27/2004 11:29:36 PM PDT by EGPWS
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