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Looting in today's NY Times article...

From yesterday's NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/27bomb.html?oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=

October 27, 2004

MISSING EXPLOSIVES

No Check of Bunker, Unit Commander Says

By JIM DWYER and DAVID E. SANGER

-snip-

Colonel Anderson, who is now the chief of staff for the 101st and spoke by telephone from Fort Campbell, Ky., said that he did not see any obvious signs of damage when he arrived on April 10, but that his focus was strictly on finding a secure place to collect his troops, who were driving and flying north from Karbala.

"There was no sign of looting here," Colonel Anderson said. "Looting was going on in Baghdad, and we were rushing on to Baghdad. We were marshaling in."

1 posted on 10/27/2004 7:03:43 PM PDT by ambrose
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So, is this the equivalent of the NYT's giving the "Viet Cong" a forum?

I would question the allegiance of these "Iraqi's".


25 posted on 10/27/2004 7:13:22 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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New York Times reporters are still walking around in Iraq? Do our Snipers know about this? Why would our Generals allow this.
30 posted on 10/27/2004 7:16:30 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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Ya Ya NYT you betcha! Sure I am sure all the military traffic streaming towards Baghdad wouldn't mind. Considering the fact that most of the people shooting at our guys were in civilian dress. So a bunch of jokers with big trucks with bombs and explosives on them wouldn't make the APACHE GUNSHIPS or PLANES or TANKS or APCs even look twice. Come on MSM. We may be a bit dumb but it looks like we is smarter than you!
31 posted on 10/27/2004 7:17:10 PM PDT by badpacifist (syntax what the heck is that?)
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" that once troops left the base itself, people streamed in to steal computers and anything else of value from the offices. They also took munitions like artillery shells, he said. "

Given the choice, would looters take a box of unknown white powder or something tangible that they could sell or use ?
Logic, common sense, decency and two working neurons dictate the latter.
Kerry believes the former and also, that smiling US soldiers helped terrorists load their pick ups and probably demanded a tip.


35 posted on 10/27/2004 7:18:42 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( Kerry to our troops-Throw down your arms and surrender !)
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To: ambrose

Looks like NYT is trying to cover their butts now. If this continues, it will the equivalent of Bush's DUI report right before the 2000 elections, only worse.


36 posted on 10/27/2004 7:18:51 PM PDT by pctech
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Re: inducing the Iraqi forces to abandon ? ?

Only the NYT could spin a 101st battle VICTORY into inducing the Iraqi forces . .

ROFL !!!!!!!!

37 posted on 10/27/2004 7:18:57 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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"Two witnesses were employees of Al Qaqaa - one a chemical engineer and the other a mechanic "

You didn't get to be a Chemical engineer in Traq unless you were a loyal Baathist. And I can guarantee you that you didn't get a job at this top secret facility unless your loyalty to Saddam was pretty certain.

40 posted on 10/27/2004 7:21:08 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry launched his career by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class.)
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They are just dragging up any nonsense they can find now. I sure hope there is a big backlash against the MSM after this election.


43 posted on 10/27/2004 7:22:02 PM PDT by Sparky760 (The sleeping Giant has been awakened)
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Three Iraq's carried off 380 TONS of explosive??????

Spare me, oh Lord.

Could someone calculate how many camels it would take to spirit away 380 tons of anything?


47 posted on 10/27/2004 7:24:36 PM PDT by jackbill
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So I'm supposed to believe that 380 tons of HDX/RDX were looted 18 months ago by Iraqi insurgents, yet NONE of it has ever been used against the coalition! This is the most incredible load of bull I have witnessed to date.

 

 

 

49 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:02 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Member of the PajamaNati for 1/6th of a year)
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This was planned to the tee.

All they wanted was a HEADLINE! Kerry, the UN, CBS, and the NYT JUST WANTED THE HEADLINE!

CBS decided not to go with the story because they had NO DATE, NO IDEA at all if the Military had found weapons, and left them exposed, or if the just neglected to search and left them to be looted, or if they were gone before the war.

So the NYT ran it, Kerry and his PR team the MSM repeated it, Bush and the military could not comment, THEY DON'T HAVE FACTS, AND ONLY BUSH IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE FACTS, NOT KERRY.

The entire story is too hard for the public to figure out this late in the game.

Kerry will not be called on it, because AS THE ABC MEMO SAID, THIS CAMPAIGN IS NOT ABOUT KERRY.

We were had.

God help us.




51 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:06 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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They should report all relevant evidence, not just what supports their anti-Bush, anti-troop spin.


53 posted on 10/27/2004 7:26:54 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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No doubt sadaam loyalist. I am certain they got viet cong to confirm this to make sure it was true.


55 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:12 PM PDT by stopillegalimmigration
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Sandy Berger is the only one I know that could smuggle 380 tons of explosives without the media knowing about it until 18 months later.

 

 

 

57 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:08 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Member of the PajamaNati for 1/6th of a year)
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Excuse me .. we all know there are some Iraqi's who would be willing to lie for money. I'm not buying this looting stuff unless it's about munitions .. and not the explosives.

IIRC the explosives would be useless without a trigger and a delivery system.


61 posted on 10/27/2004 7:32:44 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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If we are to believe this NYTimes story, If there was looting, then the looters must have taken the really big bombs. Pathetic the leaps the New York Times expects its readers to make.


64 posted on 10/27/2004 7:35:57 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Looters do not make off with 380 tons of explosives. The NYT is reaching to make this stick. It ain't gonna happen fellas. Give it up!


67 posted on 10/27/2004 7:40:33 PM PDT by Novel
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The place was crawling with our troops how in the sam hill did they miss 1000's of looters???? </scarsam>


70 posted on 10/27/2004 7:47:27 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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The Times is really desperate to fabricate a story, aren't they?


73 posted on 10/27/2004 7:49:59 PM PDT by Log
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Somebody should tell the NYT to shut up. The more they try to cover their a$$, the more damage will be done to the Kerry campaign.

On second thought, let their (NYT) credibility go south along with their ad revenue.

5.56mm

74 posted on 10/27/2004 7:51:38 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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