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Sunspot Activity at 8,000-Year High
Space.com ^ | 27 Oct 2004 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 10/27/2004 11:03:06 AM PDT by gobucks

Sunspots have been more common in the past seven decades than at any time in the last 8,000 years, according to a new historic reconstruction of solar activity.

Many researchers have tried to link sunspot activity to climate change, but the new results cannot be used to explain global warming, according to the scientists who did the study.

Sunspots are areas of intense magnetic energy. They act like temporary caps on upwelling matter, and they are the sites of occasional ferocious eruptions of light and electrified gas. More sunspots generally means increased solar activity.

Sunspots have been studied directly for about four centuries, and these direct observations provide the most reliable historic record of solar activity. Previous studies have suggested cooler periods on Earth were related to long stretches with low sunspot counts. From the 1400s to the 1700s, for example, Europe and North America experienced a "Little Ice Age." For a period of about 50 years during that time, there were almost no sunspots.

But a firm connection between sunspot numbers and climate remains elusive, many scientists say.

Better record

The new study, led by Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute in Germany, employed a novel approach to pinning down sunspot activity going back 11,400 years:

Cosmic rays constantly bombard Earth's atmosphere. Chemical interactions create a fairly constant source of stuff called carbon-14, which falls to Earth and is absorbed and retained by trees. But charged particles hurled at Earth by active sunspots deflect cosmic rays. So when the Sun gets wild, trees record less carbon-14.

While trees don't typically live more than a few hundred years or perhaps a couple thousand, dead and buried trees, if preserved, carry a longer record, "as long as tree rings can be identified," said Manfred Schuessler, another Max Planck Institute researcher who worked on the study.

The study's finding: Sunspot activity has been more intense and lasted longer during the past 60 to 70 years than at anytime in more than eight millennia.

Sunspot activity is known to ebb and flow in two cycles lasting 11 and 88 years (activity is currently headed toward a short-term minimum). Astronomers think that longer cycles -- or at least long-term variations -- also occur. Scientists in other fields have shown that during the past 11,000 years, Earth's climate has had many dramatic shifts.

"Whether solar activity is a dominant influence in these [climate] changes is a subject of intense debate," says Paula Reimer, a researcher at Queen's University Belfast who wrote an analysis of the new study for Nature. Why? Because "the exact relationship of solar irradiance to sunspot number is still uncertain."

In general, studies indicate changes in solar output affect climate during periods lasting decades or centuries, "but this interpretation is controversial because it is not based on any understanding of the relevant physical processes," study member Schuessler told SPACE.com. Translation: Scientists have a lot to learn about the Sun-Earth connection.

Better understanding

The study's methods appear solid: "The models reproduce the observed record of sunspots extremely well, from almost no sunspots during the seventeenth century to the current high levels," Reimer said.

The research could eventually help scientists understand why the climate has changed in the past and allow for better predictions of future change.

"The reconstructed sunspot number will nonetheless provide a much-needed record of solar activity," Reimer said. "This can then be compared with palaeoclimate data sets to test theories of possible solar–climate connections, as well as enabling physicists to model long-term solar variability."

Whatever the result, change is likely to continue.

Solanki's team calculates that, based on history, the chances of sunspot activity remaining at the currently high levels for another 50 years is 8 percent. Odds are just 1 percent the solar exuberance will last through the end of this century


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; solar; sunspots
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To: farmfriend
Here a link to the original post:

-the Sun has a Thousand Faces--

That's the one born in the chaos of 2000.

61 posted on 10/27/2004 3:36:38 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: Old Professer

Well, DC's been a dead swamp for about 200 years....


62 posted on 10/27/2004 7:43:01 PM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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To: b4its2late

You forgot "because of global warming" - you know the chicken and egg thing.


63 posted on 10/27/2004 7:44:31 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ, De Opresso Liber.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

LOL!!


64 posted on 10/27/2004 7:45:01 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Actually, the paper you quote lends credence to my original post: there IS no method for including solar variability in forecast models. Therefore, it is not included.

Am I an atmospheric scientist? No. A modeller? No. All I know is that the statements that accompany new 'evidence' of global warming (i.e. model output) state how carefully every variable is considered, but they never mention solar variability. One is led to the conclusion that it is NOT considered.


65 posted on 10/27/2004 7:47:45 PM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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To: gobucks

Ham radio ping.


66 posted on 10/27/2004 7:50:06 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: Nowhere Man

favor request: please tell me significance of ham radio ping? I'm new enough to have not heard of it before this thread... an earlier post actually pinged to a ham radio ping list.


67 posted on 10/27/2004 7:52:14 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: smonk
junk science. they have no idea what sunspots were doing 8,000 freaking years ago.

Maybe they found "Bubba Ho-Tep's" amateur radio log in Egypt as he took time off form building the Sphinx to pursue his WAA (Worked All Atlantis) certificate on 20, 10, and 6 meters in both SSB and CW modes. B-) Sorry couldn't resist.

DE KA3WRW
68 posted on 10/27/2004 7:57:42 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: gobucks
favor request: please tell me significance of ham radio ping? I'm new enough to have not heard of it before this thread... an earlier post actually pinged to a ham radio ping list.

Well, sunspots affect radio communication which amateur radio operators are a part of. High sunspots usually signal an increase of activity in the ionosphere which reflect radio signals of various frequencies, usually during these periods, the frequencies reflected far away goes up. One example is our local fire department is on 33.760 Mc and during these periods, we sometimes get radio interference from Cuba. When sunspots are low, the frequencies reflected be the ionosphere are lower. There is a lot more variations to this but that is the very basics for now.
69 posted on 10/27/2004 8:04:40 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: Nowhere Man
You need to go to The Space Environment Center's website sec.noaa.gov That way, you can get cool real-time displays of the D-Region (ionosphere) like this one:
70 posted on 10/27/2004 9:30:48 PM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!


71 posted on 10/28/2004 3:06:21 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Nowhere Man

" Well, sunspots affect radio communication which amateur radio operators are a part of. "

Oh. Of course, and I knew that. Just making sure .... Thanks!


72 posted on 10/28/2004 3:33:28 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: dd5339
Hmmmm... YEP!!

But the sunspot activity might be a good explanation why we can't seem to run 24 hours straight at the plant.
We're over 20 hours behind since we started up last Monday.
Equals another fun filled weekend - AT WORK (eech)
73 posted on 10/28/2004 11:19:25 AM PDT by cavtrooper21 (This isn't a lab... it's HELL with fluorescent lighting.)
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To: cavtrooper21
Sunspot activity/magnetic pole intensity and location changes are getting MUCH more significant the past 60 years!

Rate of movement of the north magnetic pole has accelerated since the 1950's (SAME time frame as the rate of change claimed for global warming!), and rate of the change" in the intensity of the magnetic field at the magnetic field at the pole has greatly increased as well.
74 posted on 02/19/2006 12:02:26 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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