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NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military
crushkerry.com ^ | October 27, 2004 | .crushkerry.com

Posted on 10/26/2004 10:29:35 PM PDT by crushelits

NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military

There's an old saying that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Well, there's a reason that sayings become "old sayings". Mainly because they've basically been proven correct over time. After listening to John Kerry for the last few days, never has the "old dog" adage been more fitting.

What we're talking about specifically here is John Kerry's slander and criticism of our armed forces. As everyone knows by now, upon his return from Vietnam (John Kerry served in Vietnam, did you know that?) Kerry aided and abetted the enemy with his near-treasonous anti-war activities and speeches calling American soldiers war criminals (one of which spawned our wildly popular original web ad Torture. Not only did he secretly meet with the Communists in Paris during the 1972 peace talks, but yesterday we found out that he was Hanoi's willing puppet, taking orders from them during that time. So it is clear that defaming and insulting the US Military is nothing new to this out of touch gasbag.

But try as he might, Kerry just couldn't abandon his roots, and in the last week has reverted to his true self by slamming the military on a daily basis. This "coming home" is much to the delight of his anti-American, dictator-loving base, symbolized by the moveon.org and Michael Moore crowds.

First of all, to you idiot critics who say "Just show us where he criticized the military. He never did. He supports the troops and thinks they did a great job. It's Bush that's the problem, not our soldiers. He never said that. Waaah, waaah, waaah".

Ok, are you all done? Good. Now shut up and listen. You might learn something.

It is true, Kerry never has overtly criticized our military personnel, but has reveled in showing his defeatist mentality by gleefully criticizing the President for every perceived failure in Iraq and elsewhere. The only problem here is that the two specific items Kerry has been trying tie around the President's neck as "failures", were not decisions made by the President, but rather, by the military commanders in the field and carried out by our troops.

Let's look at the two examples of alleged "failure" cited by Kerry, and then you tell us who he's really criticizing here.

Most recent of course is "NYTrogate", as so eloquently named by the readers of Polipundit.. For those of you living under a rock, here's the quick summary. Yesterday the New York Times, also known as the Kerry mouthpiece, "broke" a story that American forces failed to guard 348,000 tons of the most dangerous conventional explosives called HMX and RDX at an Iraqi weapons storage facility in April, 2003. Those stockpiles simply "disappeared", and are feared to be in the hands of the Iraqi terrorists.

However, in less than a day that little piece of fiction fell apart as NBC News reported that they were embedded with American forces in April, 2003 at the time they captured the weapons storage facility in question (aptly named "Al Quqaa" prounounced "KaKa"- get it?). It turns out that while the American troops did find explosives, none of the HMX or RDX explosives were found. Even a liberal can figure out that this means the HMX and RDX were gone PRIOR to the Americans capturing the weapons storage facility.

But you see, none of this matters to Kerry. He has jumped on this story like a former ex-President who shall remain nameless, liked to jump on porky, unattractive Jewish interns. He is using the story as Exhibit "A" in his contention that the President is an "incredibly incompetent" Commander in Chief and should be voted out. Hell, they love this libelous story so much, they rushed a TV ad onto the air to take advantage of it.

Now here's the rub. Imagine we are living in "Kerryland" and everything he is saying is true. Assume the weapons actually were there and were stolen in one month (a subsequent UN inspection in May, 2003 showed the weapons weren't there) by Iraqi forces. Yes, all 450 TONS of them, just sneaked out without anyone knowing.

Ask yourself this question. Who would be responsible for this horrendous breach of security? Would it be the President, whose job as Commander in Chief is to decide to go to war and ensure the troops on the ground have everything they need? Does anyone in their right mind really believe that the President is the one that makes the literally thousands of military decisions that are made on the ground each day? Does anyone actually think that the President, who is thousands of miles away, was making the final decision on how many troops to deploy at this one site (out of hundreds) to ensure its safety?

Of course no rational person would believe these scenarios. The President does not make the day to day military decisions on troop movements, battle plans, and how to guard various sites.

So who is it that Kerry is really criticizing? The troops on the ground, and the Commanders responsible for ensuring security at these sites. What Kerry is saying is that our military leaders, and the troops that serve under them are incompetent fools who let 450 TONS of very dangerous materials be taken from right under their nose in one month. Keep in mind this isn't some drunken college student stealing a candy bar from a late night convenience store. Imagine how "incredibly incompetent" our military would have to be to allow this to happen.

But that's really what Kerry's saying. It's just like his claims in 1971 that American military leaders were telling troops to rape, pillage and plunder the jungles of south Vietnam. To try to and pin the blame on these supposedly missing weapons on the President is incredibly transparent, and we can imagine it's not going to play to well in military households across America.

The second claim Kerry has been making for weeks is that President Bush let Osama Bin Laden escape at Tora Bora in December, 2001, because the President "took his eye off the ball" by focusing on Iraq. Kerry claims that instead of killing Bin Laden ourselves we "outsourced" the job to the Afghan Northern Alliance, thus allowing Bin Laden to escape.

Let's leave aside for the moment Kerry's own statement in December, 2001 that our Tora Bora strategy was "pretty effective" and that we should "continue to do it that way". Also leave aside for the moment the recent quotes of retired General Tommy Franks who was in charge of the Afghan operation, who wrote in very specific detail about why Kerry's version of Tora Bora "doesn't square with the facts". Finally forget about Colin Powell's recent statement that nobody even knows if Osama was even at Tora Bora at the time.

No, what you should again focus on is exactly who Kerry is criticizing with his statements. There is a reason that our military spends billions of dollars to train military officers the way we do - to allow them to make decisions on how to fight a war. It is not, nor should it be, a President's decision on how to fight a battle. Rather, the President's decision is whether or not to go to war in the first place, and then if he does, to let the military leaders decide how best to win that war.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Tommy Franks and the men under his command know how to go about fighting a war, and specifically here, a mountainous battle, far better than George Bush. Yet, for the perceived failure at Tora Bora, Kerry lays the blame on the President's doorstep. Even if what Kerry is saying is true, how would it be the President's fault?

Taken to its logical conclusion Kerry is saying that if he were President, Osama would have been dead or captured at Tora Bora. If you believe that you have to believe that Kerry would have, on his own, come up with a specific battle plan on how to get Osama.

Would he really have us believe that he knows better than the military leaders that are actually there and dealing with the day to day on the ground reality how to execute a military plan? If so, anyone who would vote for him is an F-ing lunatic.

We can just imagine a President Kerry in the Situation Room over a map of some hellhole telling the military on the ground how John "Patton" Kerry would handle this battle, and then start moving around little models like he was playing a real life version of the game of "Risk".

Thus, if in the next few days you see a twinkle in the eye of John Kerry you'll know why. It's because he's back in his favorite element - having a national stage in which to slam the US Military for political gain. Well guess what Senator - we all get the last laugh come Tuesday.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; kerryelement; nytrogate; slammingmilitary; torabora

1 posted on 10/26/2004 10:29:35 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits

I thought it was Ammogate or QaaQaaGate


2 posted on 10/26/2004 10:33:39 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: crushelits

HOORAH BUMP!!!!!


3 posted on 10/26/2004 10:33:50 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (John Kerry betrayed this country as a young man and he will betray this country as president.)
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To: crushelits

Bullseye....Right on target,.... Thanks


4 posted on 10/26/2004 10:34:42 PM PDT by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: crushelits

The 1971 John F*ckin' is showing his true colors. And besidesc the bash-the-military aspect of this, the thing that's funny is Kerry howling we should have gone into Iraq to secure the darned explosives. This after a year of maintaining we were involved in the "wrong war at the wrong time in the wrong place." Can you say flip-flop?


5 posted on 10/26/2004 10:34:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: crushelits

For the sake of the Viet Nam Vets and POWs, for the sake of our current military, please let the country see Kerry for the loser that we all know that he is. Between the MSM, the fraudulent voting and George Soros, this has been a really long hard battle. The positive thing is the huge crowds the President has been drawing. Dufus, the Traitor, cannot win this election.


6 posted on 10/26/2004 10:35:24 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"I was against the war before I was for it." - John F*ckin' quote.


7 posted on 10/26/2004 10:36:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: crushelits
And if the weenie-talk we got today from the Pentagon is any indication of the testosterone levels over there, then how in blazes can we expect those effetes to win wars?
8 posted on 10/26/2004 10:36:33 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: crushelits

BTTT


9 posted on 10/26/2004 10:38:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: crushelits
Yes !

During the debates I was saying the same thing - that Kerry was slamming the military when he slammed Bush !

10 posted on 10/26/2004 10:43:09 PM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: crushelits

Poodle POS

Good article.... are you affiliated with CrushKerry.com?
One of my many favorite daily Blogs.....


11 posted on 10/26/2004 11:13:33 PM PDT by BurbankErnie (I am an oxymoron - a California Republican)
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To: crushelits; All
Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story.
 
Here's a fast grab of all the links & relevant commentary I have so far:
 
 CBS eyed '60 Minutes' Bush bombshell
 
 NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military
 
Media Shamelessly Shilling for Kerry and Kerry Brazenly Lying
 
 
Invitation to a Defrauding (links CBS's 2003 article : U.S. Searches 'Suspicious' Iraqi Site
 
 Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News
 
 Kerry Ad Promoting LIES about Missing Explosives Is LIVE 
 
 Be prepared [call to action on Kerry ad based on explosive lies]
 I've read the Kerry ad. It may be built on deceptions and half truths but it's an effective ad and it will require not rebutting but refutation.
 President Bush needs to make a statement; have a press conference - something straight from the President himself and NOW. . .stop the lies. . .stop the misinformation. . .stop the Kerry camp in it's tracks. . .NOW; by stepping up and out. . .taking advantage of his position as President so speak directly to the people. He should have a 'fireside' everynight. . .or Press conference every day. . .
 NBC Video vs. Kerry Campaign Video... ~4:41pm~ EST
SEEMS INCREDIBLE THAT NEARLY 24 HOURS AFTER NYTIMES STORY IS BLOWN AWAY - JOHN KERRY CONTINUES TO USE IT ON THE TRAIL: The Daily Recycler has done everyone in the blogosphere a tremendous service by editing together Kerry's specific statements and the actual truth from NBC News. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE (1:27), LISTEN HERE TO THE 3 HOUR EXPOSE we did on air today.
 
 **CALLING ALL 101st AIRBORNE MEMBERS, AIRTIME TO TELL YOUR STORY**
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM] --
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257884/posts
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT
 
 Toronto Star continues to lead with false weapons report
 
 Hanoi Kerry attacks 101st Airborne in "Ammogate" smear ad.
 
 
 60 MINS PLANNED BUSH MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY FOR ELECTION EVE  "Do they have something else to spring on us on Thursday? That's supposed to be the time to have the maximum impact on the election...that's when the DUI story was released in 2000."
 Question seems to be IS THIS THEIR BEST SHOT?? I'm confident it won't be their last.
 
Missing Explosives Story Missing Facts
NYTrogate--
  http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/nytrogate.html
 
 

Rush just read a CNN story from 1/2003 "Al Aqaa a WMD site"...anyone have a link (vanity)
  The Iraqi explosives story CBS and the New York Times ran yesterday is a fraud. These weapons were not there when US troops went to this site in 2003. The IAEA and its head, the anti-American Mohammed El Baradei, leaked a false letter on this issue to the media to embarrass the Bush administration.  Here you go:

Link to CNN Story

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/24/sprj.irq.inspections/index.html

Here is a link to DRUDGE story on it:

Link to DRUDGE story

 Fox also had an article about Qa Qaa Site:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html

 
 UN Report in 2003 notes Iraq "lost" HMX & converted remaining HMX stocks into "industrial explosive"  Uh oh, looks like the MSM got caught with it's pants down again.
 
 

As I said yesterday, Joe Lockhart on the Kerry-Edwards conference call yesterday said the missing explosives: "Central issue for the rest of the campaign."

This is their October Surprise and they have nothing else but vote fraud. They have to go with this story no matter if it is a lie or not. They have nothing else. Desperation has set in for the Dems and it is blowing up in their face.

We in the "New Media" need to keep telling everyone we know that this story is a "LIE" and Kerry is a liar as well as MSM

 Edwards rips Bush for lost Iraq explosives (Will Edwards apologize now?)  I have been contacting the media sources that are continuing the missing explosives lie trying to pressure them to issue retractions and to get Kerry Campaign people to comment on the latest information about this story that they have been using as a political attack against President Bush. I urge you all to do the same.
 
 
 Why don't they just call it the Oct 25th Surprise, since they have a new one everday.
 This is not the real October surprise- it's too early for the critical hit; there's a whole week for the story to be shot at and sunk - The real attack comes at the end of week and is directed at Bush's character, a follow-up to the Kitty Kelly and Dan Rather types of attack.
 
  THE DITTOCAM IS ON! Live Rush Thread   Rush is ripping CBS, NYT, and Kerry a new one. (LOVING IT)  
I have a feeling that this is going to hurt CBS and Kerry in the long run. I am glad that NBC came forward with their footage showing the explosives were moved before we took Baghdad. You would think that CBS and Dan Rather would have learned their lesson after Memo-gate-- In a lot of workplaces today (and for the next week) people are fixating on the election. It's topic #1 in conversations. So even if the MSM doesn't get on it, those of us of the PJ platoons can burn peoples ears off at work about it.
 
 
 "what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"
I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-
 
 "Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."
Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.
 
 
 
 Drudge now reporting Iraq depot story was shopped to CBS' 60 minutes before reported by NYT   60 Minutes wanted to report this garbage on election eve...
 Dear God these people at CBS and in the MSM are desperate to bring down a sitting POTUS...at any cost. I suspect anything and everything reported as NEWS for the last half century from the MSM...
 
 Kerry wants answers on missing explosives
 It's on the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html I sent a copy to myself, just in case it disappears.
 "Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"
 See page 25 of THE FBI FILES
 More to investigate for the John F. Kerry Timeline.
 Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:
 What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.
 Link
 I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.
 

12 posted on 10/27/2004 12:15:28 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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