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NTSB Aircraft Accident Report AA Flight 587 [Live @ 9:30]
NTSB ^ | 10-26-04 | NTSB

Posted on 10/26/2004 6:31:44 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Date/Time/Location October 26, 2004 9:30 a.m.

NTSB Conference Center 429 L'Enfant Plaza, SW Washington, DC 20594

Aircraft Accident Report - In-Flight Separation of Vertical Stabilizer, American Airlines Flight 587, Airbus Industrie A300-605R, N14053, Belle Harbor, New York, November 12, 2001.

(Excerpt) Read more at ntsb.gov ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 587; flight587; ntsb
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I wonder how many time they'll tell us the tail fell off?

[This was the 1st shoe bomber IMO]

LIVE Web cast at link.

1 posted on 10/26/2004 6:31:46 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
PING...
2 posted on 10/26/2004 6:32:35 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

I agree with you.


3 posted on 10/26/2004 6:33:25 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Witness Interviews

The Witness Group has received 349 accounts from eyewitnesses, either through direct interviews or through written statements. An initial summary of those statements follows:

· 52% specifically reported seeing a fire while the plane was in the air, with the fuselage being the most often cited location (22%). Other areas cited as a fire location were the left engine, the right engine or an unspecified engine, and the left wing, the right wing or an unspecified wing.
· 8% specifically reported seeing an explosion.
· 20% specifically reported seeing no fire at all.
· 22% reported observing smoke; 20% reported no smoke.
· 18% reported observing the airplane in a right turn; another 18% reported observing the airplane in a left turn.
· 13% observed the airplane "wobbling," dipping" or in "side to side" motion.
· 74% observed the airplane descend.
· 57% reported seeing "something" separate from the airplane; 13% reported observing the right wing, left wing or an undefined wing separate; 9% specifically reported observing no parts separate.

http://ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2002/020604.htm


4 posted on 10/26/2004 6:34:36 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
I wonder how many time they'll tell us the tail fell off?

Umm, the vertical stab did fall off. It was found in Jamaica Bay. It was the first piece of debris on the flight path out of the airport by a huge margin.

[This was the 1st shoe bomber IMO]

Pretty talented shoe bomber to climb out a door while the airplane was in flight, crawl along the outside of the fuselage to the vertical stab, and hold his shoe against the vertical stabilizer and then set off his shoe, whilst causing absolutely no blast damage to the vertical stab.

The cabin is filled with all sorts of nice potential potential floating debris like clothes in overhead bins, seatcushions, etc.

Note there was none of that in Jamaica Bay. just the vertical stab.

5 posted on 10/26/2004 6:36:02 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: OXENinFLA

The NTSB should have been disbanded and every participant in the TWA 800 sham put in jail for their criminal coverup. But, they're still in business and it looks like more same old, same old, at our expense.


6 posted on 10/26/2004 6:36:29 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Strategerist

You might be right, but their credibility is shot after TWA 800. They went on and on how a spanwise beam pushed the first class seats and nose gear doors off the plane first, because the center wing tank exploded.


7 posted on 10/26/2004 6:38:12 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Swordmaker

Ping......


8 posted on 10/26/2004 6:38:41 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Strategerist
November 2001 plane crash (A A flight 587) Queens, NY was AL QAIDA operation
9 posted on 10/26/2004 6:39:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Live Webcast:
   Real Video
   Windows Media
10 posted on 10/26/2004 6:40:46 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Yawn.


11 posted on 10/26/2004 6:41:49 AM PDT by Strategerist
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Oh, we can go home now , they just said that terrorism wasn't involved...................Nothing to see here folks move along....
12 posted on 10/26/2004 6:43:32 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Strategerist
FLIGHT 587 WITNESSES BLAST FEDS
13 posted on 10/26/2004 6:46:24 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Aeronaut

might be of interest


14 posted on 10/26/2004 6:46:46 AM PDT by snopercod (Inflation, it's how wars are paid for.)
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To: OXENinFLA

The NTSB took possesion of a bridge camera (removed) and possesion of the tapes that the camera recorded of the event. They stated this to the MSM but the tapes have not seen the light of day in public.


15 posted on 10/26/2004 6:49:07 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Deguello

Looks like they're about to play some tape right now...


16 posted on 10/26/2004 6:49:49 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Oh, we can go home now , they just said that terrorism wasn't involved...................Nothing to see here folks move along....

Many of us speculated that that would be their conclusion, even as the pieces were still falling out of the sky.

9-11-01 would have been classified as 'not terrorist related' had it not been for that 2nd plane hitting tower #2. Then with the Pentagon and PA planes, it got downright difficult to use that 'not terrorist related' line.
17 posted on 10/26/2004 6:52:35 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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[This was the 1st shoe bomber IMO]

Wow, so you hadn't blown through the cover-up on the actual shoe bomber, we wouldn't even know there was such a thing!

Oh - you say they ~didn't~ try to cover up the actual shoe bomber? Why not?

18 posted on 10/26/2004 6:57:05 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: TomGuy

10-minute break.

[That's government, for ya! Work 30 minutes, break 10.]


19 posted on 10/26/2004 6:58:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: TomGuy
In a way I can understand why.

I can only imagine the shear panic that would have swept through the US knowing that al Qaida was now blowing up planes in midair.
20 posted on 10/26/2004 7:01:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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