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NBC BLOWS A HOLE IN NY TIMES' EXPLOSIVES STORY (KERRY SPOT)
The Kerry Spot, NRO ^ | 10/25/04 | Jim miclacevski

Posted on 10/25/2004 6:26:01 PM PDT by Timeout

KERRY SPOT

Jim Miklaszewski of NBC News pretty much dismantled the New York Times attack on behalf of Kerry today.

NBC News: Miklaszewski: “April 10, 2003, only three weeks into the war, NBC News was embedded with troops from the Army's 101st Airborne as they temporarily take over the Al Qakaa weapons installation south of Baghdad. But these troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing. The U.S. troops did find large stockpiles of more conventional weapons, but no HMX or RDX, so powerful less than a pound brought down Pan Am 103 in 1988, and can be used to trigger a nuclear weapon. In a letter this month, the Iraqi interim government told the International Atomic Energy Agency the high explosives were lost to theft and looting due to lack of security. Critics claim there were simply not enough U.S. troops to guard hundreds of weapons stockpiles, weapons now being used by insurgents and terrorists to wage a guerrilla war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 10/25/04)

If Jill Abramson, managing editor of the New York Times, had a shred of concern over her paper's reputation for getting the facts right never mind objectivity or fairness, she would be running the correction - or at least this blatantly contradictory information - in the giant headline font and above-the-fold location that today's story got. But I guess the interest in echoing the sentiments of Maureen Dowd is more important than getting it right at the Old Gray Lady.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: explosives; iraq; jillabramson; kerry; mediawingofthednc; nbcnews; newyorktimes; nyt; nytrogate; wot
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To: Thumbellina

Thank You!
Thank You!
Thank You!
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Thank You!


701 posted on 10/25/2004 9:07:26 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: cp124

Hey, watch the Yankees bashing! ;)

The day after the Yanks lost game seven, my husband was going to wear a black sock around his arm to symbolize that he was in mourning. He didn't, but my house definitely mourned for a few days....


702 posted on 10/25/2004 9:07:58 PM PDT by hansel
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To: Thumbellina

Good point! I've got a friend in the Army NG stationed in Hawaii. :)


703 posted on 10/25/2004 9:08:13 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: truthandlife

yea,,, like a cart with no wheels.


704 posted on 10/25/2004 9:08:26 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: big time major leaguer
The White House didn't dispute the NY Times because they knew they could counter the change pitting the MSM against MSM. The Pentagon knew this anonymous source would leak info.
705 posted on 10/25/2004 9:08:31 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: TheForceOfOne

LOL


706 posted on 10/25/2004 9:08:45 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: DBeers

"DU -just booted me today -I only lasted several days under cover!"


---I didn't last long enough to get one single post LOL


707 posted on 10/25/2004 9:09:26 PM PDT by MichelleWSC
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To: El Gato
You missed my point: the NYSlimes tried to confuse these explosives with WMDs, as if WMDs have gone missing.

Moreover, most IEDs have been constructed from old artillery shells, not these high explosives.

Finally, what does it matter the detonation velocity. My point was that you can BRING DOWN AIRLINERS, as the NYSlimes scare tactic screamed, with dynamite. You don't need RDX. In fact, even boxcutters and a few suicidal maniacs will work.

708 posted on 10/25/2004 9:10:01 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: BigSkyFreeper

ALso, Hawaii supports our troops here big time. I'm sure they are aware of the military feelings of a NO JOHN KERRY for commander in chief.


709 posted on 10/25/2004 9:10:14 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: mr_griz
They've immunized the public against an October surprise! Michael Moore, in my book, has done more to advance the conservative cause than anyone I can think of, except Reagan and Limbaugh. Any chance he's secretly one of ours?

No. But there's a chance he's secretly THREE of ours.

710 posted on 10/25/2004 9:10:31 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: DBeers

You couldn't have been kicked out of a better blog site if you tried!


711 posted on 10/25/2004 9:10:41 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: big time major leaguer
HERE IS THE LATEST AP COPY...

VIENNA, Austria (AP) - The U.N. nuclear agency warned Monday that insurgents in Iraq may have obtained nearly 400 tons of missing explosives that can be used in the kind of car bomb attacks that have targeted U.S.-led coalition forces for months. International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei reported the disappearance to the U.N. Security Council on Monday, two weeks after he said Iraq told the nuclear agency that the explosives had vanished from the former Iraqi military installation as a result of "theft and looting ... due to lack of security." The disappearance raised questions about why the United States didn't do more to secure the Al-Qaqaa facility 30 miles south of Baghdad and failed to allow full international inspections to resume after the March 2003 invasion. The White House played down the significance of the missing weapons, but Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry accused President Bush of "incredible incompetence" and his campaign said the administration "must answer for what may be the most grave and catastrophic mistake in a tragic series of blunders in Iraq." Al-Qaqaa is near Youssifiyah, an area rife with ambush attacks. An Associated Press Television News crew that drove past the compound Monday saw no visible security at the gates of the site, a jumble of low-slung, yellow-colored storage buildings that appeared deserted. "The most immediate concern here is that these explosives could have fallen into the wrong hands," IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said. The agency first placed a seal over Al-Qaqaa storage bunkers holding the explosives in 1991 as part of U.N. sanctions that ordered the dismantlement of Iraq's nuclear program after the Gulf War. IAEA inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers, Fleming said. Inspectors visited the site again in March 2003, but didn't view the explosives because the seals were not broken, she said. Nuclear agency experts pulled out of Iraq just before the U.S.-led invasion later that month, and have not yet been able to return for general inspections despite ElBaradei's repeated urging that they be allowed to finish their work. Although IAEA inspectors have made two trips to Iraq since the war at U.S. requests, Russia and other Security Council members have pressed for their full-time return - so far unsuccessfully. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said coalition forces were present in the vicinity of the site both during and after major combat operations, which ended May 1, 2003 - and searched the facility but found none of the explosives material in question. That raised the possibility that the explosives had disappeared before U.S. soldiers could secure the site in the immediate invasion aftermath. The Pentagon would not say whether it had informed the nuclear agency at that point that the conventional explosives were not where they were supposed to be. Saddam Hussein's regime used Al-Qaqaa as a key part of its effort to build a nuclear bomb. Although the missing materials are conventional explosives known as HMX and RDX, the Vienna-based IAEA became involved because HMX is a "dual use" substance powerful enough to ignite the fissile material in an atomic bomb and set off a nuclear chain reaction. Both are key components in plastic explosives such as C-4 and Semtex, which are so powerful that Libyan terrorists needed just a pound to blow up Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, killing 170 people. Insurgents targeting coalition forces in Iraq have made widespread use of plastic explosives in a bloody spate of car bomb attacks. Officials were unable to link the missing explosives directly to the recent car bombings, but the revelations that they could have fallen into enemy hands caused a stir in the last week of the U.S. presidential campaign. "These explosives can be used to blow up airplanes, level buildings, attack our troops and detonate nuclear weapons," senior Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart said in a statement. "The Bush administration knew where this stockpile was, but took no action to secure the site." White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the administration's first concern was whether the disappearance constituted a nuclear proliferation threat. He said it did not. "We have destroyed more than 243,000 munitions" in Iraq, he said. "We've secured another nearly 163,000 that will be destroyed." McClellan said the IAEA informed U.S. mission in Vienna on Oct. 15 about the missing explosives at Al-Qaqaa. He said national security adviser Condoleeza Rice was notified "days after that," and she then informed President Bush. ElBaradei told the council the agency had been trying to give the U.S.-led multinational force and Iraq's interim government "an opportunity to attempt to recover the explosives before this matter was put into the public domain." But since the disappearance was reported Monday in The New York Times, ElBaradei said he wanted the Security Council to have the letter dated Oct. 10 that he received from Mohammed J. Abbas, a senior official at Iraq's Ministry of Science and Technology, reporting the theft of 377 tons of explosives. The letter from Abbas informed the IAEA that since April 9, 2003, looting at the Al-Qaqaa installation had resulted in the loss of 215 tons of HMX, 156 tons of RDX and six tons of PETN explosives. Diplomats said there was nothing to suggest that ElBaradei, who had irritated the Bush administration before the war by insisting there was no evidence that Saddam had revived his nuclear program, had intended to keep the report a secret until after the Nov. 2 election.

712 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:02 PM PDT by fidelio
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To: SE Mom

Haven't seen Dana Lewis for a while but I thought I saw him on Fox somewhere other than Iraq, like Afghanistan or Russia. I'm not sure.

Fox gives their reporters a lot of time off when they are stationed in the difficult areas. One of my favorite Fox reporters is Steve Harrigan and I haven't seen him for a looooooooong time.


713 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:11 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Stellar Dendrite

NY Times Public Editor:

E-mail: public@nytimes.com
Phone: (212) 556-7652

David Sanger - New York Times White House Correspondent (HE WROTE THE STORY TODAY CONTINUING THE IGNORING OF THE FACT THAT THEY INSPECTED IT IN 2003 AND FOUND NOTHING...he also was part of the triple-bylined story that came out yesterday):

E-mail: dasang@nytimes.com
Phone: (202) 862-0322
Fax: (202) 862-0340

BE NICE....but question why they did not include this information in their stories.


714 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:13 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: tobyhill
EVIL GENIUS!
715 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:19 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: Illinois Rep
Where are these weapons? How do we know they existed?************

Hmmm - you bring up a good point?

Do WE know where they are - in Syria? Will Syria be getting a heads up and relinquish them or tell where they went?*********

Will the nonexistent WMDs come to light along with "Connect the dots" on the band of culprits: UN, Saddam, France, Germany, K, the ultimate UN buddy?

This may be a very interesting week.

And if it is this huge - the MSM is not going to want to be caught n the middle of it and get investigated as complicate?

Remind me never to play poker or chess =with Rove!

716 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: All

NY Times Public Editor:

E-mail: public@nytimes.com
Phone: (212) 556-7652

David Sanger - New York Times White House Correspondent (HE WROTE THE STORY TODAY CONTINUING THE IGNORING OF THE FACT THAT THEY INSPECTED IT IN 2003 AND FOUND NOTHING...he also was part of the triple-bylined story that came out yesterday):

E-mail: dasang@nytimes.com
Phone: (202) 862-0322
Fax: (202) 862-0340

BE NICE....but question why they did not include this information in their stories.


717 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: truthandlife
would be nice to be a wall fly in their rooms, to listen to them, when the memo gate scandle thing didn't work, but, only to fly back into their faces,,, and now this, to only fly back into their faces.
Yup,, Priceless.
718 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:49 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: big time major leaguer

"I'll feel better when I hear it from the Pentagon, and not an NBC Reporter. Then I will really be celebrating."

I expect the brass at DoD may have something to say on this.


719 posted on 10/25/2004 9:11:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (Republican for Red Sox!)
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To: TheForceOfOne
YOUR WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME
720 posted on 10/25/2004 9:12:51 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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