Posted on 10/25/2004 4:29:44 PM PDT by Tuttle
1. Iraq: If Bush believes that we've spent so much in lives, money and credibility to relieve Iraqis from Saddam's tyranny, he (Bush) needs to join the bleeding-hearts club and become President of that. If Bush believes that terrorism doesn't flourish in democracies, he needs to be told of the IRA, the Red Brigades and yes, our very own McVeigh, who had no significant problems doing his deed. So long as there's a root cause that we nourish, in this case Israel, the Mideast will be a breeding ground for anti-US terror and a democratic Iraq will be headquarters for that movement. The conservative solution: scrap planned elections in Iraq (democracy requires a level of self-respect that they don't have) and establish a pro-western Saddam right now. Allawi fits the bill just fine.
2. Deficits: Anybody who thinks Bush's deficits are A-ok should hand in his conservative credentials and go join the dogoodniks of the left. The conservative solution: Its time to reign in spending and go to a flat tax where everyone pays the same percentage of income. Sure the liberals will whine that it's cutting into the eating money of the poor class. Well, the poor should be reminded that they always have the choice of not doing drugs. And for heaven's sake, phase out social security entirely by stopping all contributions and just refunding everyone's money over time at a fair interest rate (2% or so right now).
3. Immigration: 'Nuff said - the article says it all. Well, maybe not. The third-world is taking over, economically and culturally. How much more time before we'll be tuning to soccer games every Sunday, instead of football? The conservative solution: Deport all people who have immigrated here in the last 10 years, legal or otherwise, criminals or otherwise.
4. Gas prices: A dictator like Allawi will help here. If he has power like Saddam had, unconstrained by the laws of a democracy, he can make the resistance go away in a heartbeat. Then he can open the oil spigots and show his gratitude for our sacrifices.
5. Israel-Palestine: All our terrorism problems stem from this support and no amount of democracy in the Mideast will change this. The conservative solution: We must make sure that Israel goes back to its '67 borders and we must stop feeding it $5B plus every year. It's like they have our delicate parts in an iron-fisted grip. No, control your knee-jerk reaction: asking to reign in Israeli ethnic cleansing is not anti-semitic - I haven't said a thing about the Jews and I don't intend to. It's just plain old-fashioned fair conservatism.
If you're offended by any of the above, you ought to reconsider if you're a true conservative.
You and Buchanan, perfect together. This is his magazine and if you all think Kerry is the answer you're as unhinged as we always suspected. And while you're at it, say hello to your good friend Lenora Fulani too.
Today I noticed something new about buchanan's unAmerican nonConservative however. They are now posting Justine Raimondo's anti-American BS. Just like Pravda.
I am offended and how dare you as a newbie come on here and question our conservative credentials. FYI Pat Buchanan endorsed Bush so I guess he is not a conservative either.
Your ilk make me sick with your holier than thou conservative definition. No wonder people don't want to be associated with conservatives if they read the likes of you!
Thanks for your input!
buchanan weakly supported President Bush...and has continued his unrelenting attacks directly on the President.
Welcome Pat. I didn't know you lurked here.
"Deport all people who have immigrated here in the last 10 years, legal or otherwise, criminals or otherwise."
I'm all for getting rid of the people who flaunted our laws and have come here illegally. And I'm all for tighting up our borders as much as possible and limiting the number of legal immigrants allowed? But deporting legal, law-abiding immigrants? I have friends who have immigrated here less than ten years ago that are completely assimilated into our society, speak our language, and contribute to our economy. Like it or not, we are a nation composed of immigrants. Unless you are an American-Indian, you are the descendant of immigrants. I sure as heck don't want open borders, but limited and legal immigration is healthy for our country. Maybe you're "disillusioned by the form of conservatism discussed" because you are the one who is not a conservative. Conservatives don't punish law-abiding residents by uprooting them from their lives and kicking them out of the country, that's what fascists, communists, and others of their ilk do.
Thanks, PKM. I don't have to say another word.
Please use the original title when posting to help prevent duplicates. Thanks.
Kerry's the One.
Edwards is the Other.
Try to exercise a little of that true conservative principle of personal responsibility and do a search before posting again. Thank you.
Buchanan is a nut case. He has lost a lot of credibility.
God bless George Bush = major victory
That even shocked me out of Buchanan -- figured he would endorse some no name!
I kind of like seeing this POS posted again. It only serves to remind people of the kind of crap that comes from pat buchanan's unAmerican nonConservative.
Speaking of which, if you get the chance check their site out. They're now proudly posting Justine Raimondo's anti-American screeds. Looks like Justine found an unAmerican outlet; Pravda won't be sole source any more.
How you can look in the mirror without laughing?
And trying to sell your comments on Israel as anything other than anti-semitic is like saying: I'm not a racist, I have a black mechanic and a Hispanic gardner.
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Just because you consider yourself a conservative purist doesn't make it true.
You don't know how to filter the good and bad. You don't know how to work in teams. You don't know how to accept other view points that are at the least amicable to your personal philosophies. You believe different degrees of the same philosophy means that you are superior to those who believe in another gradient of the same philosophy.... Therefore, I think you might be mad at your father and that you beat your dog... also, you probably have proclivities that are considered deviant to the general public.
How deluded can the left become? Their worst nightmare is coming true and they are in total denial.
huh?
deficits laid on bush? i am not happy for bush not reducing spending, but the democrats got big gov't started with fdr. need to slash spending more -- kerry will do this?????
gas prices: whoever wrote this is not in touch with reality. oil prices are market driven. gasoline prices are being driven higher by EPA and the clean air act, more big gov't. in addition, 17 states have their own version of the clean air act. we have taken a mass market where efficiencies existed -- refining gasoline -- and turned it into a series of expensive niche markets. we are importing 10% of our GASOLINE (not oil) and are having difficulties finding countries that will refine gasoline for us because of our requirements. the last oil refinery built in the usa was in 1976. kerry is going to fix this???????????
immigration -- huh??? we are the melting pot of the world. if it were not for immigrants america would not exist. immigrants are doing the work that other americans choose not to touch. why should we not allow someone to make 10 times what they would earn in their home country and help america prosper? your solution of deporting all immigrants who came here the last 10 years sounds more like nazi-ism than conservatism.
Yo, tuttle...are you feeling the love? That's true conservatism.
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