[LS]

And here I thought you were going to talk about a medical problem Francois had.

[narby]

Kerry's original discharge was subject to review by a "board of officers" -- yet no such review should be necessary for an Honorable Discharge.

So, when are one of these officers going to come forward and say they were on this review? This would bypass the SF180 requirement, because they're not releasing "documents".

[Sleeping Freeper]

I'm beginning to think we'll never know what's in Kerry's military records. I wonder what the statute of limitations is for releasing this information to the general public. The Census has a 70 year rule....

[EagleUSA]

"For a guy who's hitched his entire presidential campaign to his military service record, John Kerry sure is parsimonious when it comes to releasing that record..."
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The foundation of the entire liberal embodiment IS A LIVING LIE!!! And the LIE is so intense, that they believe it, and the YELLOW DOGS believe it. So adept and adjusted to lying are they, that Kerry built his platform on what most likely amounts TO A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE...(effectively), for his treasonous, anti-American radical activity. THIS IS WHAT HE IS HIDING!!! --- to keep the BIG LIE ALIVE!! -- that this piece of excrement is something more than exactly that.

[the invisib1e hand]

Jimmy Carter's first official act as president was the signing of Executive Order 4483 --less than an hour after his inauguration on 21 January 1977. EO 4483 provided general amnesty for draft evaders, war protesters and other offenders of that era.

OMG. I'm too young to remember Carter's early years. Wow. I thought the Clinton era was deplorable! I'm glad I didn't understand things like this in Carter's day. Didn't the sane citizenry collectively shake their heads and moan, "what have we done" when he pulled things like this?

[hawkiye]

So why don't we just take one of the Dems tactics and release the story that he was dishonorably discharged and let him prove he was not?

Here we are a week out and if something doesn't break soon were looking possibly at months of lawsuits in one or more close states. I think Bush will win by a comfortable margin but we won't know for sure till Nov 2nd.

[clintonh8r]

"I received an honorable discharge........after I received a dishonorable discharge." /sKerry voice.

[agrace]

Interesting read.

[Edgerunner]

I hope JUSTICE will be done to Kerry and disgrace him.
May he be DAMNED here and in the heavens!
If we don't stop this bastard, America will be well on the path to becoming a banana republic!

[reed13]

I agree with this article on everything, with one exception. Dishonorable Discharges are punitive in nature and only assigned via a Court-Martial. Should Kerry have been Court-martialed it would be a record open to the public like any other court document. Such information is not currently known to exist. I believe that an Administrative separation was used and his service characterized as General or Other-than-Honorable. Since he has since received his honorable upgrade, I would wager on General if I had to.

That being said I had a Kerry campaigner call me from DC, I'm in Wisconsin, last week. I kept him on the line for a good 45 minutes discussing the issues (mainly to keep him off the line with anyone else). I spoke about the lack of a form 180 and the 100+ pages the Navy says has not been released.

We spoke about taxes after I questioned him on his salary (60-80 range according to him), and he said that he only received about $500 in savings. I know this is a crock I make in the same range and I got at least $1500 - course he may not have kids. Then he had the gall to ask me if I wouldn't be willing to give that money up if it was to help social security or medicare or something. I didn't even let him finish - I said absolutely not. That money is for my little girls and my wife, allowing them the best life I can afford to them.

We actually had a fairly cordial discussion despite my fairly conservative talking points. At one point he was talking about the diviseness in DC since Bush came into office (not that ther wasn't any in Clinton's time). I stated that I had no problems with them killing each other as long as they kept it in the beltway - after all they're only politicians. He actually laughed with me.

He wrapped up the call, but not before I got in a rather serious comment about Kerry really needing to sign his form 180. Being a vet myself I think I was able to make it sound pretty convincing - I think. Anyway I felt I had done my duty for the day preventing anyone else's dinner from getting cold.

[Radix]

It seems to me that if there are former Naval Officers out there who know for a fact that Kerry was guilty of consorting with the enemy and was discharged under other than honorable conditions, then they should speak up.

The only reason I can think of for not doing so is perhaps they have been threatened in some fashion.

Certainly they may signed promises to keep certain things secret, but this is about the future of our Country being under the control of a person who has possibly already been responsible for us losing a war. That alone is horrific, but also contributing to the torture and death of an unknown number of military heroes makes it abominable.

[newsgatherer]

The absolute best series on kerry and his military record is still fight here:

Danny Calhoun

[newsgatherer]

Bump

[Deguello]

If Kerry did receive a Dishonorable Discharge, then he may have broken several laws at a latter date.

Kerry says that he is a hunter and has several firearms. If he lied (Dishonorable Discharge) when filling out the 4473's for purchases, then Federal Laws were violated.

If his wife(s) purchased for him, then more laws were broken.

[mindwest]

Detailed analysis of Kerry discharge now online at

http://www.vetsforbush.net/kerry-oth-discharge.pdf