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Get ready for Chinas century
Globe and mail.com ^ | Oct.22 2004 | Marcus Gee

Posted on 10/24/2004 8:57:15 AM PDT by winodog

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To: Utmost Certainty

No longer forward looking? So this whole computer industry that's almost entirely driven by American inventions is nothing? The X-prize showing American companies can and will privatize space is backwards?

Yes some companies are risk averse, this gives the opportunity for their competition to knock them down and replace them. There's still plenty of people in America taking risks, creating, thinking for themselves, and scoffing at people like you, who are the real source of any fear that might be holding us back.


21 posted on 10/24/2004 10:46:57 AM PDT by discostu (mime is money)
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To: philosofy123

Yes I did and do. This is something that started long before President Bush was elected. NAFTA and GATT would never have seen the light of day if they were not backed by "the party of the people" meaning the dems of course. Seeing how big a hypocrite and a liar kerry is, I am suprised that he has not said he was against NAFTA and GATT and that he will outlaw them. But the bigger problem of course is illegal immigration. The next dem will probaly run on a platform of stopping immigration and he will be smart enough to have a plan to change things and bring back jobs. IMHO things will get worse before they get better.


22 posted on 10/24/2004 11:06:53 AM PDT by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: winodog

NAFTA was fine - because we share a common border with Mexico, we had an interest in trying to build their economy to try and stop illegal immigration.

free trade with China destroyed NAFTA - any investment that was going into Mexico for low skilled manufacturing, is going to China. so now, the globalists see Mexico as the source of cheap service labor for the US - but to fill those jobs, they have to be here in the US - hence our current immigration debacle.


23 posted on 10/24/2004 11:13:20 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: discostu

that's over, you still thinking as if it were the mid 90s. all of the large companies that are dominant in the seminconductor industry, computing, networking are "china-centric" now.


24 posted on 10/24/2004 11:14:56 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: winodog
Statement: "Get ready for Chinas century"

Response: Probably.

Comment: America's bungled 'leadership' has actually assisted and will continue to assist such an outcome in the future.

25 posted on 10/24/2004 11:16:58 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: oceanview

It's not over by a long shot, the major boom is over, but the industry is still strong, and it isn't china-centric.

I'm thinking like a person who's watched the doom and gloomers be wrong for 30 years straight. They're the ones that hold the country back, their constant fear is what messed us up in the late 70s, shouting them down is what got us into the 80s boom.


26 posted on 10/24/2004 11:18:10 AM PDT by discostu (mime is money)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Yep. Like the telepathic John Edwards said in his "debate"
{{snicker}} with Dick Cheney, "America's lights are
flickering - - -" and as he said it, I (Twinkie) was
channeling President Ronald Reagan and I heard him say - - -
"Who is this upstart anyway?!"


27 posted on 10/24/2004 11:19:41 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: oceanview

I would bet that the predators and parasites who pushed NAFTA through did so with full knowledge that China would take those jobs.

NAFTA was not implemented to help Mexico. IMO that is a lie. The parasites in the swamp supported NAFTA and GATT for one reason (besides the numerous ways in which it lined their pockets) and that is to erase the border. To bring on the one world order.


28 posted on 10/24/2004 11:22:46 AM PDT by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: winodog

I am against NAFTA, and GAT, and forgiving the illegal immigrants. Bush needs the Spanish votes, so he panders to them, I guess?


29 posted on 10/24/2004 3:42:12 PM PDT by philosofy123
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I am not sure why he panders to them but I suspect you are right and he is afraid of losing votes.

The long term problem as I see it is massive illegal immigration in the southwest will give lots of votes to the dems. All things else being equal the illegals are mainly socialist and believe the gov. should take care of them, especially the mega rich US gov.

Throw in all the votes from liberal boomers who are retiring and moving to the sunny and cheap southwest from the large cities and the coast where they have voted for socialism as a answer to all the problems. Now they will do the same to the wonderful southwest.

This spells the end of the electoral votes from the southwest going to the reps. We might not see another republican President in our lifetime after W. Of course anything could happen and we could pick up votes in the upper midwest so who knows.


30 posted on 10/24/2004 4:16:06 PM PDT by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: DreadCthulhu
If anything, China now resembles a fascist state, not a Communist one.

Big mustache; little mustache. It's all pretty much the same thing.

31 posted on 10/24/2004 5:18:59 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Ich glaube, du hast in die hosen geschissen!")
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To: DreadCthulhu; Utmost Certainty
Damn straight! I've been saying that for years.

UC, I agree with you somewhat but you should qualify your post by saying "Democrats" have lost the American Spirit. In some respects the GOP has lost this spirit as well.

That's why we on the right have to fight tooth and nail to correct things. It's not as bad as you might think.

32 posted on 10/24/2004 5:23:16 PM PDT by Arioch7
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Yeah, you're probably right it's not as bad I think sometimes.

And thanks to everyone on here who replied with vehement opposition to what I said. It gives me some needed confidence that I'm very wrong about this.


33 posted on 10/24/2004 7:32:56 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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