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ZOT! Stem Cell 911
Author's web site | Oct. 22, 2004 | Wendy Goldman Rohm and Robert Lanza

Posted on 10/23/2004 11:19:46 AM PDT by wendyrohm

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To: Prime Choice

yeah, it's better to throw a ball of undifferentiated cells into the garbage can at an IVF clinic than to use them to cure a living, breathing child who is about to die !


21 posted on 10/23/2004 12:45:12 PM PDT by wendyrohm
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To: wendyrohm
yeah, it's better to throw a ball of undifferentiated cells into the garbage can at an IVF clinic than to use them to cure a living, breathing child who is about to die !

So the ends justify the means in your world, hm?

What's it like to live a life so devoid of ethics and morality?

22 posted on 10/23/2004 12:47:41 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: PaxMacian

Why is using a ball of undifferentiated cells-- that is about to be thrown in the garbage an at IVF clinic-- to save lives of sick patients "murder," but killing living, breathing, adults in the electric chair or in unjustified wars,
not??


23 posted on 10/23/2004 12:48:51 PM PDT by wendyrohm
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To: Cicero
Wendy Rohm may be is a pro-death troll...

There. Fixed it.

24 posted on 10/23/2004 12:49:10 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: wendyrohm
You reek of troll, little Wendy. Go see Peter Pan (aka, John Edwards).

And take your whiny, pro-abort crap to Dr. Josef Mengele. Like you, he too saw nothing with sacrificing the innocents in the name of medical research.

People like you make me sick.

25 posted on 10/23/2004 12:50:26 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: arkady_renko
I have a feeling this was an attempt to get inflammatory 'right-wing' quotes to finish out her book.

I hope she appreciated the inflammatory 'right-wing' quote from Clinton.

26 posted on 10/23/2004 12:51:59 PM PDT by syriacus (VANESSA Kerry would probably say she's glad her father didn't destroy her for stem cell research.)
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To: arkady_renko

400,000 leftover embryos are "killed" in IVF clinics in the US alone. thrown in the garbage or put in the deep freeze. most right to lifers don't object to IVF. why is that ??
Orrin Hatch believes the potential for life is only from an embryo in a woman's womb. There is no potential for life from an early stage embryo generated in a test tube. it has no potential for life and has not differentiated into any body cells at all. the Vatican used to define life as the moment of "quickening," when a woman feels the fetus moving inside her womb. who gets to define what a life is??
the public is uneducated. people do not even know the difference between an early stage embryo and a fetus


27 posted on 10/23/2004 12:54:13 PM PDT by wendyrohm
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To: arkady_renko
No response from Wendy. I have a feeling this was an attempt to get inflammatory 'right-wing' quotes to finish out her book.

Trolls rarely reply. They just toss in white-hot incendiaries, make a bunch of foolish statements, then bail (or get banned).

Besides, she reeks of Eau de Trolle (that's French, you know). ; )

28 posted on 10/23/2004 12:54:15 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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29 posted on 10/23/2004 12:58:35 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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30 posted on 10/23/2004 1:00:28 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: wendyrohm
Orrin Hatch believes the potential for life is only from an embryo in a woman's womb.

Orrin Hatch also believes that immigrants should be able to run for President. Try again, stupid.

31 posted on 10/23/2004 1:02:22 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: syriacus
I hope she appreciated the inflammatory 'right-wing' quote from Clinton.

$20 says she'll use the quote in question and attribute it to you instead of former President Clinton. That's just the way these Leftists work. Truth, morality and ethics are just unnecessary inconveniences to them.

32 posted on 10/23/2004 1:27:26 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: wendyrohm
Thanks for replying, Wendy:

400,000 leftover embryos are "killed" in IVF clinics in the US alone. thrown in the garbage or put in the deep freeze. most right to lifers don't object to IVF. why is that??

I do object, just for the reason you have stated. Human embryos are killed. No "quotes" required around the word killed.

Orrin Hatch believes the potential for life is only from an embryo in a woman's womb.

Who is Orrin Hatch and why should I care what he thinks? Not to be flip about it, but what weight does his opinion hold and why do you choose to believe him and not, say, Archbishop Charles Chaput?

There is no potential for life from an early stage embryo generated in a test tube. it has no potential for life and has not differentiated into any body cells at all.

No potential for life? Is that why when they are implanted during IVF they continue to develop as human babies and not baby pigs? Embryos are living human beings. They are human. They are living (or we wouldn't be having this discussion about the ethics of killing them.) And they are beings.

the Vatican used to define life as the moment of "quickening," when a woman feels the fetus moving inside her womb

But they don't anymore, do they?

who gets to define what a life is??

Bingo! (to use a Catholic phrase) Who gets to determine when human life DOES OR DOES NOT begin? If there is a chance you are wrong, Wendy, then you are taking a horrendous chance, aren't you? You may be advocating killing people to 'help' save people. Now you have to decide which person is more deserving of survival.

the public is uneducated.We'll work on that.

people do not even know the difference between an early stage embryo and a fetus

What is that difference, Wendy? At what stage are we safe to kill the embryo?

Regards,

A_R

33 posted on 10/23/2004 1:35:04 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: wendyrohm

"undifferentiated"? They are different from either the mother or father in that they have a distinctly diffierent genetic code. Why don't Kerry and his ilk simply practice the black witchcraft method of direct consumption of the unborn in order to extend their evil lives? What do they need billions of dollars taken from the economy to experiment on human beings?

Define unjustified war! I suppose you mean not actually declared by Congress as our Constitution requires.


34 posted on 10/23/2004 1:42:21 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: wendyrohm

Damn it, I haven't hear of one cure using stem cells. As a matter of fact, stem cells can be harvested from blood. It is the same cell from any other source once processed. And if the blood is taken from the same adult, it will not be rejected by that person. Stem cell research has been going on for years and at a fast pace. Private industry will find something that it could be used for a cure, and you can bet it will be worth trillions. There would be no greater incentive that that, for sure. So, get life, and if you still have the headache, I would suggest a couple aspirins and a good nights sleep.


35 posted on 10/23/2004 2:01:02 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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For the 100 millionth time, stem cells have been researched and used for decades. I assure you that embryonic stem cells are not natures panacea, they will not make a parapalegic walk again, they do not "cure" cancer (since cancer is not curable - manageable but not curable} and they will not cure MS Alzheimer's or anyother condition.

Could they possibly ameliorate conditions in the short term??? perhaps, but they will not grow new limbs or miraculously heal central nervous system lesions.

Give it up! This is a totally bogus issue!

36 posted on 10/23/2004 2:17:08 PM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: MeekOneGOP; mhking

Ping


37 posted on 10/23/2004 2:23:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: wendyrohm
who gets to define what a life is??

God does. Not you.

38 posted on 10/23/2004 2:24:22 PM PDT by little rebel (I'm little rebel and I approve this post)
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To: wendyrohm
I have some clone kitties for you...


39 posted on 10/23/2004 2:46:25 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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40 posted on 10/23/2004 6:14:55 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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