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400,000 leftover embryos are "killed" in IVF clinics in the US alone. thrown in the garbage or put in the deep freeze. most right to lifers don't object to IVF. why is that ??
Orrin Hatch believes the potential for life is only from an embryo in a woman's womb. There is no potential for life from an early stage embryo generated in a test tube. it has no potential for life and has not differentiated into any body cells at all. the Vatican used to define life as the moment of "quickening," when a woman feels the fetus moving inside her womb. who gets to define what a life is??
the public is uneducated. people do not even know the difference between an early stage embryo and a fetus


27 posted on 10/23/2004 12:54:13 PM PDT by wendyrohm
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To: wendyrohm
Orrin Hatch believes the potential for life is only from an embryo in a woman's womb.

Orrin Hatch also believes that immigrants should be able to run for President. Try again, stupid.

31 posted on 10/23/2004 1:02:22 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: wendyrohm
Thanks for replying, Wendy:

400,000 leftover embryos are "killed" in IVF clinics in the US alone. thrown in the garbage or put in the deep freeze. most right to lifers don't object to IVF. why is that??

I do object, just for the reason you have stated. Human embryos are killed. No "quotes" required around the word killed.

Orrin Hatch believes the potential for life is only from an embryo in a woman's womb.

Who is Orrin Hatch and why should I care what he thinks? Not to be flip about it, but what weight does his opinion hold and why do you choose to believe him and not, say, Archbishop Charles Chaput?

There is no potential for life from an early stage embryo generated in a test tube. it has no potential for life and has not differentiated into any body cells at all.

No potential for life? Is that why when they are implanted during IVF they continue to develop as human babies and not baby pigs? Embryos are living human beings. They are human. They are living (or we wouldn't be having this discussion about the ethics of killing them.) And they are beings.

the Vatican used to define life as the moment of "quickening," when a woman feels the fetus moving inside her womb

But they don't anymore, do they?

who gets to define what a life is??

Bingo! (to use a Catholic phrase) Who gets to determine when human life DOES OR DOES NOT begin? If there is a chance you are wrong, Wendy, then you are taking a horrendous chance, aren't you? You may be advocating killing people to 'help' save people. Now you have to decide which person is more deserving of survival.

the public is uneducated.We'll work on that.

people do not even know the difference between an early stage embryo and a fetus

What is that difference, Wendy? At what stage are we safe to kill the embryo?

Regards,

A_R

33 posted on 10/23/2004 1:35:04 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: wendyrohm
who gets to define what a life is??

God does. Not you.

38 posted on 10/23/2004 2:24:22 PM PDT by little rebel (I'm little rebel and I approve this post)
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There is no potential for life from an early stage embryo generated in a test tube.

Congratulations, Wendy. You just put the in vitreo fertilization industry out of business.

64 posted on 10/25/2004 6:23:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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