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N. Korea: Kim Jong-il's Distant Relative Tried to Kill Him With Chinese Blessing
Shin-Dong-A (S. Korean Monthly) ^ | Oct, 2004 | Um Sang-hyun

Posted on 10/23/2004 8:51:03 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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It is interesting to note that all sources are Chinese. Chinese are volunteering all this information to S. Korea, including their involvement. This analsis pretty much fits my speculation, that is, a conspiracy to kill Kim Jong-il with Chinese hand in it. It also explains many things N. Korea and China have been doing around Sino-N. Korean border. Chinese troops are not there just to hold off influx of refugees, even though that is surely part of their duties. N. Korean troops are not there just for catching escaping refugees, either. N. Koreans are rather frantically beefing up the security of Sino-N. Korean border. N. Korean troops have to guard against possible Chinese military action. On top of that, there could be cross-border covert operations to destabilize N. Korean regime. Operatives can blend into stream of refugees or visitors.

The killer blow to N. Korean regime could most likely come from its backdoor, if U.S. turns up heat on China.

1 posted on 10/23/2004 8:51:04 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; Travis McGee; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/23/2004 8:52:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Curiouser...and curiouser...


3 posted on 10/23/2004 8:53:02 AM PDT by SE Mom
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So, could this mean that China would hold sway in North Korea and what would that mean? Pretty big question but your thoughts would be appreciated.


4 posted on 10/23/2004 8:54:38 AM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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Re #4

China would want to install solid pro-Chinese regime in N. Korea, who would serve as a buffer against U.S. In due time, China would assimilate N. Korea economically, and eventually politically. For near term, China wants N. Korea to be a loyal satellite state.

5 posted on 10/23/2004 8:59:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The second invasion of N Korea by China in the past 50 years might be a different type.

This is getting very interesting.


6 posted on 10/23/2004 9:01:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is why he's so ronry.


7 posted on 10/23/2004 9:05:17 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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I assume the big explosion was that railroad station explosion. If it was truly an assassination attempt, they messed up big time. They were off by, what, hours?

However, crazy Kim's day might be numbered anyway. He has managed to anger too many people.
8 posted on 10/23/2004 9:13:09 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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And what's up with the 130K Chinese troops on the northern border?

5.56mm

9 posted on 10/23/2004 9:15:45 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Yeah, Kim ticked off Chinese, who can choke his regime to death. China is now doing slow strangulation, a la anaconda. For example, Chinese drastically cut down food aids since last spring. If China ever completely shut down oil and food, N. Korea would most likely go down.

Chinese would only do this because they fear Japanese and Taiwanese nukes.

10 posted on 10/23/2004 9:19:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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If something happens in N. Korea, they move in and take control. Ostensibly it would a peace-keeping mission. But it would be more than that. What did Red Army do after it move to Poland? It installed a pro-Soviet regime.

11 posted on 10/23/2004 9:22:30 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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It is interesting to note that all sources are Chinese.

My first question was going to be is this a pro-ChiCom/pro-North paper?

12 posted on 10/23/2004 9:25:02 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Huh Chang-suk is one of those pro-Chinese N. Korean figures who approached the top Chinese leadership with the assassination plan.

This is not believable at all that.

13 posted on 10/23/2004 9:26:25 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
China would want to install solid pro-Chinese regime in N. Korea, who would serve as a buffer against U.S. In due time, China would assimilate N. Korea economically, and eventually politically. For near term, China wants N. Korea to be a loyal satellite state

So inth end, it's a lose, lose situation for us.

14 posted on 10/23/2004 9:28:40 AM PDT by riri
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I like to see North Korea go, but I can't trust China either. They might install another Communist government if they invade North Korea.


15 posted on 10/23/2004 9:31:27 AM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
China would want to install solid pro-Chinese regime in N. Korea, who would serve as a buffer against U.S. In due time, China would assimilate N. Korea economically, and eventually politically. For near term, China wants N. Korea to be a loyal satellite state.

Yes.

The ChiComs never want N. Korea to become less communist or more free than China. There has to be a worse regime out there that they can look better in comparison and so they can contiune to extort the west with promises their of "influence" on the worse rogue regime. The ChiComs would also like to be able to exploit thw people in N. Korea to make plastiuc trinkets for 1 cent an hour.

16 posted on 10/23/2004 9:32:39 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
they move in and take control. Ostensibly it would a peace-keeping mission. But it would be more than that. What did Red Army do after it move to Poland? It installed a pro-Soviet regime.

You are probably correct. To the N. Koreans it would be a choice between fighting or eating.

5.56mm

17 posted on 10/23/2004 9:32:41 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Re: "Chinese would only do this because they fear Japanese and Taiwanese nukes."

That fits in with my armchair analysis. North Korea with nukes is of no advantage to China. Like you said, it is only encouraging South Korea, Japan and Taiwan to go nuclear also.


18 posted on 10/23/2004 9:33:53 AM PDT by OK
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How do you kill someone with a Chinese blessing?

Are Chinese blessings really that lethal??






;-)


19 posted on 10/23/2004 9:35:47 AM PDT by sitetest (Why does everyone get so uptight about toasted heretics??)
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To: OK
A twist in the theory is that US and China are working together to get rid of Kim.

A nuclear N. Korea will lead to nuclear S. Korea, Japan, and possibly Taiwan. Basically, the US non-nuclear proliferation policy will be no more. Every other third world country with the capability will want to build a bomb. Brazil come to mind.
20 posted on 10/23/2004 9:44:47 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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