Posted on 10/22/2004 9:54:26 PM PDT by UnbornChild
Please pass this on to all your pro-life connections.
Dr. Phil has an extremely popular show, and I'm usually a fan. However, I'm very disappointed that he's planning a show discussing when a woman should have an abortion. Please write the show an email and let him know what you think:
It says "please only write if you want to be on the show". Disregard. They need to know this is unacceptable.
https://www.drphil.com/drphilplugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=D139900002
Please get the word out to as many people as possible.
God Bless.
Try this. Don't watch the show.
That about sums it up. Very succinct, and never quite thought of it that way before.
Thanks. I'm making it into a protest-warrior sign for the next pro-choice march in DC.
"There is no one I know on the face of this earth that has the knowledge to tell me without any doubt, when a fetus in the womb becomes a human"
Yup. But the burden of proof should be on the Abortionists: do not destroy it until you can prove without any doubt that the fetus is NOT human.
You've got your morals reversed, and are using the same line of reasoning that justified the enslavement of Africans.
He knows more than you do.
That's right!
Regarding rape, I once heard someone put it so profoundly, "why punish/kill the child for the crime of it's father".
As Rob Roy McGregor said, "It ain't the child who needs killin'.
You'd have a point if the fetus' DNA was the same as the mom's. As it is different, that proves we're talking about a completely different life.
Our whole culture is based on the intrinsic worth of the human being. A human being's worth does not start when he has capability X or Y. It simply is. When the human being exists, his worth exists. That's the meaning of equality.
"There is no one I know on the face of this earth that has the knowledge to tell me without any doubt, when a fetus in the womb becomes a human in the sense of "Thou shalt not kill", and in the scriptural sense of receiving a soul."
I reject Protestant Bible-only interpretations because you can make the Bible say anything you want it to. I can tell you with certainty why Catholicism considers the unborn child an equal, and I can tell you from a purely philosophical point of view why the unborn child is an equal, but biblical prooftexting doesn't amount to anything, especially when two people are coming from two different methods of exegesis.
I'd say when science could show it has human DNA or the cell shows human HLA antigens. There doesn't seem to be any point that a human fetus was anything other than human --- new tests -- DNA probles etc could show it is nothing but human.
Are you saying that given enough time your arm would grow into a sentient being?
Really? How so?
No text gives you the ideas to interpret it. Everyone comes to a text with pre-conceived ideas on how to interpret it. That's how you make the Bible say anything. The proof is that there are countless denominations saying contrary things.
Good post, Wita. I doubt that many here will actually understand your point, however.
"DNA probes etc could show it is nothing but human"
The feminists will fight that b/c DNA testing proves that the FATHER has rights in deciding the fate of the child - ie. its his DNA too.
It was sophistry. Science annihilates virtually every point made in that post.
We understand it just fine. But those of us who know our science in the matter know it to be smoke and mirrors.
"I doubt that many here will actually understand your point, however."
I understand it: "its okay to enslave Africans because Science has yet to determine whether they are human; sub-humans aren't protected by the Bill of Rights. So lash away."
A civilized society would err on the side of caution.
You've got to be joking?
The equivalence of you losing your arm is the abortionist ripping the unborn baby's arm off and then the baby survives. Unless you think that the unborn baby losing that arm and surviving is equivalent to killing you.
Like they care.. They don't...
Same with the network and Oprahs company Harpo..
Liberals don't think they feel...
Its all about opinion and to them, theirs is much more important than yours..
Dr. Phil really is a moron or he would not be a democrat..
Dr. Phil is doctor of a pseudo-social-science.
You have neighbors as "wise" as he is.. maybe wiser..
Pro-life/pro-baby ping...
Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee
Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
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