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School Teachers Pointedly Slam NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND in Discussions with Parents...
10.21.04 | mlmr

Posted on 10/21/2004 6:17:28 PM PDT by mlmr

I have had to place some of my children in the local government schools. I am keeping the school on a fairly short leash and spend more than the usual amount of time talking to school employees.

Every school employee except for the busdriver has, each time we have spoken togher, has put in a POINTED slam of the No Child Left Behind program. All of them. All the time. One employee told me that I had to provide a reason and a note when the child is missing for a day...becasue No Child Left Behind requires it. Althoug friends in other districts deny thier schools requiring any such thing. And I certainly know that this is a FEDERAL mandate since the speakers all refer to this issue.

Is this a NEA or state union push. It is very effective for on a one to one basis with all parents during the teacher meetings this year, which are mostly held before the elections, parents are being told that the present administration is screwing up their child.

Any other government school parents experiencing this???


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KEYWORDS: homeschooling; nclb; nea; nochildleftbehind
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To: mlmr

No Child Left Behind is a bad program; I'm not surprised you're hearing teachers slam it. Federalized funding of the education system inevitably leads to problems.


21 posted on 10/21/2004 6:29:20 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: mlmr

Schools won't educate, they will indoctrinate, even when they get a kick in the pants. It is time to scrap government schools, period.


22 posted on 10/21/2004 6:30:48 PM PDT by GeronL (John Kerry believes in a right to privacy and in gay rights............ ask "fair game" Mary Cheney)
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To: mlmr

The school you are visiting may be under a corrective plan for excessive absences. In that case, it would be necessary under NCLB.


23 posted on 10/21/2004 6:30:59 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: mlmr

Good teacher accept the challenge.......others can't stand the thought of accountability.


24 posted on 10/21/2004 6:30:59 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: mlmr

Today, our daughter brought us a form to fill out. It said:

“The ethnic codes for the State Department of Education for [our state] have changed. If you wish to change your child’s ethnic code, please indicate this information by checking one of the boxes below.” I wrote on the form: "Can we actually do this?" We think daughter two should be Hawaiian/Pacific Islander this year. Next year, she can be Latino IF she passes her Latin I class this year.


25 posted on 10/21/2004 6:31:01 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: mlmr

"No child left behind"

if no child moves forward, then no other children will be left behind.


26 posted on 10/21/2004 6:31:29 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: NittanyLion

Just had to say hey to a fellow PSU grad (unless you took the name 'cause you like PSU football.


27 posted on 10/21/2004 6:31:41 PM PDT by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: mlmr

My brother's a teacher(no lib) and he doesn't have a positive opinion of NCLB. I can't remember what is biggest greviences were though.

We should bring back capital punishment. Teachers should be holding more students behind or forcing summer school on those who came close to needing to be held behind. My brother said that will never happen because teachers wouldn't want to put up with the parents.


28 posted on 10/21/2004 6:31:42 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: mlmr
I am a schoolteacher . . . in the private schools. Yes, I have better students and a nicer working environment. But I also have no job security whatsoever and far, far less take-home pay than I would in a government school. But it is worth it to me to keep my sanity. The government schools are a joke. Why should it be so alarming to any teacher or parent that one must ". . . provide a reason and a note when the child is missing for a day... becasue No Child Left Behind requires it." Are we not supposed to be held accountable for the children in our charge? I don't understand. All I know is that the government schools and most of their union-protected employees are just part of the great bureaucratic blob, self-interested, self-perpetuating, self-aggrandizing, caring little or nothing about the actual education of children.
29 posted on 10/21/2004 6:32:18 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: mlmr

I've heard that "No Child Left Behind" buzz around the elementary school where my kids go....its sort of like the trendy thing to cut down. Usually used in a condescending tone by what I call "bubble-headed powder puffs" that really don't know its an ACCOUNTABILITY program that requires the school to actually answer to someone other than the NEA.

I've met a number of teachers, gotten to speak politics with just a few. For the most part I find them conservative in their views, but when it comes to actually thinking they should be ....shall I actually say it..... EVALUATED for their performance they get a tiny bit indignant.


30 posted on 10/21/2004 6:32:27 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: mlmr

My mother-in-law, after many years of teaching elementary school, had to get a Masters degree in order to be considered "well-qualified," which is pretty stupid. But that may be that particular state's implementation of NCLB, rather than anything in the federal statute.


31 posted on 10/21/2004 6:32:29 PM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: kiki04

I'm a grad. Hello to you too!


32 posted on 10/21/2004 6:32:35 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: etradervic
The NEA supports let no teacher fall behind economically.
33 posted on 10/21/2004 6:32:37 PM PDT by Big Horn (A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
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To: mlmr

Some teachers have only survived by the unions and not their skills and those are the teachers that "No Child Left Behind" challenges to do better or move out. My kid has those kind in his school too but I don't play games with them, I tell them how it is.


34 posted on 10/21/2004 6:32:48 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: bahblahbah

I am with you on corporal punishment in schools, Capital punishment the parents might have a problem with, though I did have some 8th graders I would have sent to the chair!


35 posted on 10/21/2004 6:33:27 PM PDT by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: mlocher

What happens when "no child" includes the special education children? THAT child will hold YOURS back.


36 posted on 10/21/2004 6:35:08 PM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: petitfour

I received a call from the office telling me since I did not choose my child's ethnic catagory that they were mandated to choose it. I said have a blast....I refuse to particpate.


37 posted on 10/21/2004 6:35:34 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: farmfriend

PTA is a political tool of the NEA. By joining your local PTA, you are automatically sending $2.00 to the National PTA which supports all the same things as the NEA. We refuse to join, though we remain active in the school.


38 posted on 10/21/2004 6:35:40 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: farmfriend

at the grade and middle school level, my kids have had some outstanding teachers! i cannot thank them enough.

the administrators, especially principles of my kids high school, are different. we have a significant drug problem in our high school (upper middle class to middle class). the hs principle told me that over 25% of the kids use drugs or alcohol on campus. the school has a suspension policy for drug and alcohol use. hardly any kids get suspended because, as the principle told me, "i do not want to have to go to court. i might get sued." (paraphrase)

the courts and our school system have a symbionic or, perhaps rather, a synergistic affect.


39 posted on 10/21/2004 6:35:46 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: mlmr
They have been doing it since it passed into law.

It is despicable and stupid.

When you question their sanity you get nothing but "I heard this and I heard that".

40 posted on 10/21/2004 6:36:22 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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