Posted on 10/21/2004 5:29:54 PM PDT by wagglebee
RUSH: John in Akron, Ohio, nice to have you with us.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. I'd like to thank you for taking my call.
RUSH: You bet.
CALLER: I would like to point out that there are people, like myself in this country who will vote for George Bush but are not comfortable when he draws upon his relationship with God as his inspiration for decisions he makes as leader of the free world. I think he would do much better to invoke the names of men -- you know, Cicero, Aquinas -- as his inspiration to support freedom in the world. People should be skeptical, and it opens him up to ridicule by those who don't share his belief system --
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why are we talking about Bush here?
CALLER: We're talking about both, but Bush is president, and I think Kerry is shamelessly pandering -- RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: -- to try to get votes.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: But I'm not comfortable with either men saying that "I will make my decisions" or that "my belief system in God is an issue for me."
RUSH: I think, you know, and I really mean this. I think there are a lot of people that don't understand people who have faith in God. I think there's been a number of, over the years, confusing and purposely impugning stories about people of faith. It is thought that people of faith do not have their own initiatives, do not have their own thoughts, that they get up and are robots and that God talks to them every day and go do what God says. That's not what Bush is. That's not what Bush is, and that's not who most religious conservative people are, either.
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Ladies and gentlemen, let me change the tone here for just a second, because there's something I want to address. We had a call from somebody claiming to vote for Bush, but admits to being upset at Bush's references to God and his claims that God will guide him in the Oval Office, and the caller hoped that Bush would invoke great men rather than Go-o-ddd, Cicero, Plato, Socrates, whoever else.
Go to our founding documents. Go to the Declaration of Independence and find Cicero or Plato or Socrates for me. Go listen to the speeches of Abraham Lincoln, ladies and gentlemen. Abraham Lincoln invoked the name of God all the time and all Abraham Lincoln is credited for is saving the nation! Not only do Lincoln invoke the name of God all the time, so did our Founders, so did our Framers, so does our founding document, the Declaration of Independence.
What I'm "not comfortable with" is people who believe they have all the answers and that government has all the answers. All of our great leaders understood that government does not have all the answers, nor did they have all the answers. There are questions human beings are capable of asking, to which we will never get the answers, because we don't know them - -and that is where faith enters into it. Liberals are who you should fear, folks. This fear of God is irrational. Fear of God is irrational. Fear of liberals makes sense.
Liberals consider themselves more powerful than God. Liberals "have all the answers." Only God has all the answers. This business of leaders who profess a belief in God? I say, "Thank God for them." There has been a big misconception throughout my lifetime, and it has been perpetuated by the left and the secularists and the atheists in our society, and that belief is that people of God -- just like all conservatives -- are mind-numbed robots. Just as you in this audience have been characterized by the left as brainless, mind-numbed robots waiting for your marching orders every day from me, so the religious right are said to be brainless.
They get up every day, God talks to them, God tells them what to do, God tells them how to vote, God tells them what to believe -- and that's not the case. It is so far from reality, and to believe that that is the case, you have to be coming from a position of fear. You have to believe that nobody has the concept of self-will, free will, which we all have. We're all free to believe and do whatever we want to believe. Somehow those that profess to believe in God are said to have no minds whatsoever? You believe that and you are coming from a place of utter fear, and you are fearing the wrong thing.
What you need to fear and who you need to fear is a person, or a group of people, who tell you they have all the answers -- particularly for you. They have all the answers for your life, and there's a group of people in this country that does that and they are our good friends the liberals. If you listen to them they have all the answers. They never answer a question with "I don't know," and if a candidate does have an answer that says, "I don't know," they claim he's an idiot and a done so, when in fact the man who admits he doesn't know everything is brilliant, because it isn't possible. It simply is not possible.
People of faith understand that there are certain things they can't prove, that there are certain things that they believe, and it is their faith that sustains them. It is their faith that gives them strength. It is their faith from which they derive their morality. When George Bush says that he is going to take his faith, or he is guided by his faith, he means he's always trying to figure out the right thing to do,! Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't mean he gets on his knees and asks God for direction and God talks back and God says, "Bomb Iraq," and so Bush bombs Iraq.
That's not what happens, but that's what the left wants you to believe that is going to happen any time a religious person gets elected to office -- and only fear can make people believe that. Bush has never said, he has never given any indication whatsoever, that that is how decisions are made. He prays for strength to do the right thing. Somebody tell me what is wrong with that. Only is it wrong in the mind of the liberal who thinks the human being is capable at all times of always doing the right thing without any consultation with something higher.
The simple fact of the matter is that one of the strengths of faith is that it teaches all of us that there are things larger than ourselves. Liberals think that they are all we need. There are many things larger than ourselves, and most people learn this early in life. Most liberals in life have yet to learn it. They have all the answers for everybody else and if anybody is going to be afraid of anything it should be that. Somebody tells you they have all the answers to any problem like Iraq -- John Kerry has an answer for everything? Do you understand? He's got the answer. No matter what it is he's got all the answers and yet he talks about taking his faith into the White House?
You know what John Kerry means when he says he'll "take his faith with him to the White House and it will guide him? What he says is, "Look, religious people. I believe in God, too. You can trust me." He hasn't the foggiest idea what it means. He's simply spinning. He is simply pandering. But this notion that we ought to somehow serve other men, and make our decisions because some other man says so -- like Cicero, or somebody else? It may be intellectually pleasing, it may be less confrontational or controversial, but it is not the basis on which the nation was formed.
People like George Bush do not claim perfect. They don't claim to have all the answers. Liberalism does both. Bush doesn't claim to have the power to make people walk. John Edwards says that John Kerry does! Sorry, folks. Nobody yet has the power to make people in wheelchairs walk. The government does not have the power to make poor people rich. Yet, John Kerry and John Edwards and liberals throughout my time have promised every poor people that they will get richer if simply they vote for Democrats, and yet the people who vote for Democrats all these years still complain about the plight of their lives, because liberals don't have the power to fulfill these grandiose promises that they make.
They claim that sick people will get well. This business when John Edwards is out there saying in essence that Christopher Reeve was in a wheelchair because George Bush is president, and if John Kerry is elected people like Christopher Reeve will get out of their wheelchairs and walk? That's what you ought to fear. That is no different than these snake oil people on television selling stuff that you think are poisoning the minds of the minds of the innocent and duping them.
There's no difference between John Edwards and a phony baloney preacher setting the globe on fire telling us we're near the Last Days unless you send him some money. So old people run to their pocketbooks, send this preacher who sets a globe on fire all their money because that will get them saved. That's liberalism! That's not Christianity. That is not George Bush. That is playing on people's fears. The idea that there needs to be fear of God is simply incomprehensible to me, not in the sense and not in the way that the American left wants you to fear God.
Bush is very traditional in his thinking. He's very traditional in his beliefs. He seeks guidance to help him do the right thing -- and he doesn't think that John Edwards is the place to go for it, and he doesn't think that John Kerry is the place to go for it, and he doesn't think that Ted Kennedy is the place to go for it, and he doesn't think that Kofi Annan is the place to go for it -- and, damn it, I agree with him! Those are not the places to go to get the answer as to what's the right thing to do.
Every human being has questions that are not answerable. We all do -- even you atheists. You've come up with your own answers; Bush comes up with his. The idea that somebody who believes in God is to be feared is a direct result of years and years and years of fear that has been implanted through our society by the American left which doesn't want people to think of God except when they see a liberal walking down the street.
The more I find out about Liberals, the more I distrust anything they say. Remember this one from Rush's site a while back?
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Creepiest Kerry Flip-Flop Yet
Posted by: Xarfax on Sep 21, 2004 - 07:00 PM
Creepiest Kerry Flip-Flop Yet
Posted by: Xarfax on Sep 21, 2004 - 07:00 PM
Creepiest Kerry Flip-Flop Yet
Does the name Wallace Carter ring a bell? He's the Massachusetts man who received two letters nine days apart from John Kerry in 1991, one supporting and one opposing Gulf War One. The New Republic published excerpts from both letters soon after, and OpinionJournal.com reports that a fellow senator and Vietnam vet mocked Kerry in a Lincoln Day speech to the Allegheny County GOP with them.
Dennis Roddy, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "At the time the first George Bush was still flush with victory in the Persian Gulf, and dinnergoers chortled over a videotaped presentation of assorted Senate Democrats backpedaling in the wake of a war they'd opposed. Ted Kennedy was shown. News clips were shown. But for Kerry, the speaker simply read the two letters, to everyone's amazement. 'It's like those before-and-after pictures they print in the papers,' the speaker said. 'If they didn't tell you so themselves, you'd think they were different people.'"
The guy giving the speech was Senator John Heinz, Republican of Pennsylvania – who died in a plane crash two weeks later leaving to his widow Teresa free to marry Kerry in 1995. Amazing. That is an incredible, creepy coincidence.
Rush Limbaugh
He was so good today. I completely forgot about him having a cold or flu bug Mon through Wens, that he had been running a slight temp and all and was a little under the weather -- then today he comes on and is full steam ahead all engines and then some. Thank God for such a quick recovery for him with his cold.
This Rush rant about the anti-religious Liberals (pointing out that Liberalism is really a competing religion to Christianity!) is so brilliant on "on the money" I have to just say thanks and PING!
Yep. Yet you will find FReepers (mostly newbies) who have no appreciation of what Rush has done for conservatism in America.
There's nobody like him.
I've been listening to Rush for 15 years, and this was an "on point" as anything I've ever heard him say!
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mega ping
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Rush made my day today.
Not only was he brilliant and passionate, but I actually got on to speak with him today!
That's tough to do. I've never been able to get through.
I was listening to this today, with my hair standing on end. Yowza!
The whole three hours was excellent, in fact. He tore John and Theresa to shreds.
Man. That is creepy.
Rush was definitely on FIRE today! This segment was especially awesome!
On an ordinary day, he is an entertainer. But when circumstances arise, he can turn on a dime and be one of the most articulate and courageous thinkers we have.
As for Bush, I find it wonderful that the most powerful man on Earth, a man who could order the deaths of hundreds of millions at the push of a button, believes in a higher power than himself, and that he will have to answer to that authority. I am amazed that an athist can find that troubling.
reading it and hearing is tottaly different.
Socrates isn't mentioned directly in the Declaration, but to somehow insist that he has nothing to do with it is just ignorant. Natural Rights - right according to Nature - was the domain of Socrates, of Platonic philosophy.
Limbaugh hasn't a clue as to what he's saying on this matter, I'm afraid.
Liberals believe in God, it's just that to them, "God" is subjective.
"And one's belief or disbelief in those laws is irrelevant to the consequences."
Reminds me of the New Age crapola: "If it's true for you, it's true for you, but not for me, I have my own truth..."
Belief in God is what starts a person on the path to finding Him. Although actually, questioning His existence with the desire to know the truth comes before that.
Through prayer and obedient service, the belief gets transformed into conviction, and then a relationship of knowledge and love which no one and nothing can take away.
Fear of God is useful and necessary in the beginning - just like a disobedient child had better fear his parents' anger. But the obedient child doesn't need to fear his parents, just loves them with complete trust.
There is so much to deal with...it's probably hard for them to keep up with it all.
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